We aim to never raise our sights above the gutter and preferably to stay much lower
Bro in law phoned tonight. Great chap and very normal, unlike my own demented relatives. Anyway, he mentioned
that, since retirement, he likes doing jigsaw puzzles so searched online for some adult jigsaw puzzles as a Christmas
present. Seems a lot of adults do like jigsaw puzzles so plenty of choice online but surprisingly, when you think of what
you get when you type adult toys into Google, there appear to be no "adult" jigsaws.
Dunno though, on second thoughts, maybe that would be rather unsatisfying.
Fairly fit for our age and we do a lot of exercise in the attempt to remain so but one can't escape all
the consequences of advancing years. No obvious pains or stiffness in our knees but we have noticed they
have started clicking when we move around. Looked it up on the net and it seems that this often happens, even in
much younger people and is no cause for concern. Phew!
Out running yesterday and got nipped on the leg by a dog. Not suprisingly, it was a tiny little terrier thing,
they are always the aggressive dogs, it's never the bulldogs or alsatians. There's a common perception that small people
are more aggressive too and it certainly seems that, if there's unecessary violence, as in
this case, it is often some shortish chap, about 5'5" or 5'6".
But logically smaller blokes need to be more aggressive than large ones to acheive the same result of
intimidating the opponent, that does not necessarily mean they are more aggressive by nature. What is the truth of it?
According to this research it′s a fallacy but
this research it′s true. Take your pick.
Two other common perceptions concern white van drivers who are a) dangerous drivers and b) kiddy snatchers.
The first appears to be true, according to these links:
White van men are involved in twice
as many accidents as heavy goods vehicle drivers and are
the most aggressive drivers when it comes
to overtaking cyclists. We can certainly relate to that, F* cyclists! Get off our roads you bastards!.
But are we all kiddy snatchers?
Can't find any figures from reputable sources on that one but, like others, we have noticed the seemingly
high incidence of white vans in attempted abductions and checked news reports on the first 10 pages of Google.
Ignoring the many duplicated reports about a single incident in Halifax we found one serious rape, four cases where
a man had actually tried to entice a child into his white van and ten cases where there were simply reports or rumours
about a man in a van stopping or driving slowly near children. In many of these the police had investigated and found
the suspicion of attempted abduction was without foundation. Do the real cases show a greater propensity of white van
drivers to commit such offences? It does not seem so. We could not be arsed to check 10 Google pages again but checked
the first three and there were 7 actual abduction attempts by car drivers compared to 3 by van drivers.
Fellow white van drivers, be sure to check (discretely) that there are no kids about before you stop at your
destination or drive around slowly looking for an address, otherwise the unfounded hysteria about this issue is
liable to get you into trouble.
Now we have to do our own housekeeping (a woman's job my lord) bits are even more annoying. You hoover the dark carpet
and within an hour that bits monster has scattered white bits all over it again.
Actually, the universe is is full of bits, made of bits. Could it be that, at this very moment, some enormously mighty
creature out there is looking at all those stars and planets in our galaxy, tutting and pluggin in his Dyson?
Digging for any facts
Do you sometimes wonder whether the mainstream press are all covering the same story? That's certainly true
of today′s news about the scale of sexual abuse of children by other children following simultaneous release
a report by the Childrens' Commissioner and
a supporting study by the the University of Bedfordshire.
this article on Sky and the issue is almost entirely one of gang rape but
the Daily Telegraph's tells of a much wider problem fuelled by easy access to porn and says
that practices once associated with inner city gangs are now common in affluent middle class areas, although what they
mean exactly and where they are getting that information from, we can find no clue whatever. Curiously, we
were firmly into "racist" territory, as far as the South East is concerned anyway, with the supposedly
liberal BBC this evening. The BBC SouthEast news, with its shots of "diverse" London streets and the voices in
the interviews, left viewers in no doubt that this was primarily a black gang problem.
So what is the truth of it? The commissioner's report is principally concerned with addressing failings by local
authorities to tackle child abuse by both youth gangs and adult groups. There isn't any actual data in it,
the nearest we get to this idea of a major problem of sexual violence among youths in leafy suburbs is a vague statement
on page 5: "While we have published chilling evidence of this violence in gang-associated contexts, we know too that
it is more widespread than that". Hmmm. So why not publish that evidence too?
The only real figures are to be found in
the supporting study based on interviews with young men and women of whom 41% described themselves as
‘Black/Black British’, 27% as ‘White’, 10% as ‘Asian/Asian British’ and 22% as ‘Dual Heritage’. Hmmm again. If
all this gang rape is going on just as much in white areas of the UK shouldn't these kids be 90% white British?
There may well be bullying and sexual pressure on girls fuelled by online porn and sexting throughout the UK
but to fudge this with the issue of brutal gang rape, as some papers seem to be doing, looks like just another
cover up of a separate problem that is largely a result of laxity on immigration, a failure to raise the bar for
groups whose youths, for whatever reason, fail to succeed in Britain and feel alienated from it.
Yet again, we repeat what should be basic logic. The fact that our own society has significant problems of its
own is not a reason to import more problems from other nations to whom we we have no obligation whatever.
Hassan Rouhani certainly appears a more moderate and rational character than Dinner Jacket but, like Dinner Jacket,
he is not the man who actually runs Iran.
Real power is in the hands of a) the Guardian Council, a body of theologians which has to approve all laws passed by
parliament and which can bar parliamentary candidates and b) the Supreme Leader. These are conservatives who, at
times, made DinnerJacket seem liberal and there have been no recent changes so is it likely that attitudes have really
According to CNN, Tehran has continued its incendiary statements against Israel even in recent weeks with
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei saying Israeli officials "cannot be even called humans"
Then there's the lessons of history which, judging by the results of one failed foreign policy after another,
those "experts" never seem able to grasp. The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is a book they would do well
The First Steps: 1934-37
To talk peace, to prepare secretly for war and to proceed with enough caution in foreign policy and clandestine
rearmanent to avoid any preventative military action by the Vesailles powers - such were Hitler′s tactics during
the first two years.
Coincidences keep coming! I read the The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich about three years ago and, while I
recall reading that Hitler was very clever in appearing moderate while secretly rearming, I could not have said what
chapter it was in. I took this 1245 page book off the shelf, opened it at random and there was the above quote!
Another un-PC correlation
Watching BBC's Fake Britain tonight about counterfeit alcohol and the specific instances indicated, although we are
not supposed to mention it, a strong link to immigration. The food standard agency figures
state that fake food and drink incidents have risen by 29 times in 6 years with fake alcohol accounting for most
of them. What else has happened in that period that might explain this huge rise?. Er, um.
According to The Institute for Alcohol Studies"it is largely foreign migrants
who are behind the growth in the illegal alcohol trade, which is not restricted to Lincolnshire." Major
distilleries in the UK have been run by Lithuanians and Poles while, according to HMRC, most illegal alcohol is smuggled,
predominantly from Eastern Europe. Apart from the loss of
£1.2bn a year in tax
revenue and the defrauding of customers who are paying for what they think is quality booze, there is a huge health
risk to those who drink this stuff due to the high concentrations of methanol and other toxins.
Although buying from small retailers is the main risk, one case on Fake Britain indicated that even buying from a major
supermarket is not a total gaurantee that your booze is genuine.
Needless to say, this is yet another downside of all that wonderful immigration that will never be counted
in the next lefty "study" showing the benefit to the UK. Carry on living in your dreamworld of ignorance
lefty idiots. Hey! Maybe they are all stoned on methanol!
History and tits
Was watching a TV program about naval history with Richard Dimpleby. He was describing a miniature of the
figurehead of HMS Victory, pointing out the figure of George III at the top, the British Lion peering around the back,
the crushed and defeated figures of Frenchmen and American Indians at the bottom, saying how they were all told a story
of British power and invincibility.
Most interesting, but what did the lady with one tit showing represent Richard? And what did all the bare tits on
the other figureheads you enthused about mean? At one point he was rubbing his hands all over a large one, marvelling
at how smooth it was, careful avoiding the nipple. Curious symbol for war machines but naval figureheads often had nice tits
in those days. Maybe sailors weren't all rum and bum with cabin boys, not when they had any other choice anyway.
Pity the way these great old traditions have died out, killed by technology and feminism. If we at bloggoth were
PM we would be bringing them back. We are not so much a tit man but we would honour the principle at any
rate. If there ever is a nuclear war we are sure the Iranians or whoever would really appreciate being hit by a
nuclear missile with a huge carving of a fat lady's arse on the front.
Those country runs (and vodka) are the only thing keeping me sane at the mo. Always seems only to be sunny
late afternoon recently. Here is Dracula's castle:
PS Weren't Romanian migrants great in Dracula's day? No welfare or begging, just the odd pint of blood.
PPS Actually it's a water tower. So they say anyway.
Hardly any surprise that Attorney General Dominic Grieve has felt
forced to apologise for suggesting there was an
issue of corruption and electoral fraud among some ethnic minorities, especially Pakistanis. It′s not true?
Really? This is what The Economist had to say on this issue:
Yet two trends are troubling. The first is the prevalence of Asians, especially of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin,
among those convicted of electoral fraud. Stuart Wilks-Heeg of Democratic Audit, a research group, points out that
British Asians make up half of all those convicted since 2000. Where fraud is most common—such as in Burnley, Oldham,
Birmingham—and allegations most persistent there are also large Asian populations. He points to “biraderi”, brotherhood
networks, used to rally support for particular candidates—a practice imported from Pakistan. (He also notes that
convictions for electoral fraud may be undercounted because some cases are pursued under general fraud laws.)
The most serious allegations of electoral fraud suggest that leaders of biraderi networks, or others, apply for
postal ballots for non-existent or ineligible voters and then establish “vote farms”. Residents of one small home
in Tower Hamlets, for example, where five adults were previously registered, reportedly applied for an extra seven
postal votes in recent weeks. Even where voters do really exist, the suspicion is that network organisers put pressure
on people to back a favoured candidate, or complete their ballot papers for them. Salma Yaqoob, a Respect candidate
in Birmingham, wants postal voting on demand scrapped because “thousands” of Asian women are disenfranchised by male
relatives who take control of their votes.
As is always the case with major migrant groups, this is not some by-product of exclusion etc but simply a reflection
of similar corrupt practices in the country of origin.
This is from The Guardian:
Close to one million strong, 45 per cent of all Muslims in Britain are of Pakistani origin and 80 per cent come from
villages in Kashmir and Punjab. They brought with them a rural tribal mentality, where everything remains in the family
group. Marriage, business, religion - who your friends are, who you vote for, everything from the cradle to the grave
- it's all designed to keep power with the elders, who are in turn answerable to clan elders, who may be answerable to
senior members in Pakistan. This clan system is called the Biraderi.
In a community with two thirds aged under 35, the closed doors of clan power mean frustration. Clan elders have for
years provided huge vote banks for mainstream parties, in return for positions and influence in local politics.
Uneducated, even illiterate, Biraderi elders can get elected as councillors. Younger members of the community talk
about a closed hierarchy, which does not recognise talent or ability. I am No 53, in a huge extended Biraderi, and no
amount of personal achievement will change that.
Those who believe that most third and developing world nations do not have far more corrupt societies than our own
are just ignorant, maybe they should take a look at the
Corruption Perceptions Index from Transparency International;
Pakistan is in the bottom quarter. Those who imagine that migrants do not bring such corruption in with them have no
understanding of human nature. How can we ever have a real debate on immigration when anyone can say whatever they like
about the white British while nothing negative whatever, no matter how true it is, can ever be said about others?
This is a trivial case but it does, yet again, illustrate the stupid one-sidedness of all "debate" on race.
A councillor suggests that a merger of two local authorities could be awkward because one has mostly white staff and
another black. Naturally some (white) twat has complained that his remarks are infering that people
of African origin can't get on with others and that his comments are terribly offensive to those of African origin.
No they don't, you fucking illogical twat! They are infering that both sides may have similar problems!
If that is offensive to those of African heritage, then it is equally offensive to white British people. Again, in
reality, it is no more than an observation on human nature.
There is another idiocy inherent in these comments. Those who praise and encourage multiculturalism
apparently imagine that cultural differences can never be any sort of barrier or will instantly disappear when it
matters, such as in the workplace.
More selective leftiness
Loony lefties love to castigate readers of The Daily Mail and compare them to far right sympathisers, as in
this bit of utter nonsense. The reality is that most Daily
Mail readers are normal people whose real anxieties have been ignored for far too long. When real
issues are not addressed, when legitimate concerns are constantly denounced as racism or xenophobia, it is hardly
surprising that resentment grows.
Another reality is that indignation about what is inflicted on the British citizen and taxpayer is far from being
limited to Daily Mail readers. We do read the online version of The Daily Mail but we also read The Guardian, an
excellent paper mostly, and it is apparent that many British citizens who do so share many of the concerns of the
Daily Mail readers, on mass immigration, the EU, the money wasted on foreign aid and the necessity for the West to be
expected to solve every problem in the third world.
this Guardian article on the conflict in the Central African Republic. The author asks "
What needs to happen before the world intervenes?" Funny how almost no Guardian commenters are agreeing and
calling for more taxpayers′ money to be spent or British soldiers′ lives to be lost. The great
majority of those "lefty" readers are against the idea. They are saying that it is absurd for
colonialism to be blamed so many decades after the event and that nobody needs to make such excuses for India or other
Asian former colonies, that Africans need to start accepting responsibility and solving their own problems, that nobody
else can do it for them, that outside interventions do not work anyway, that if we took military action it would only be
a matter of time before we were being blamed for more deaths and being accused of neo colonialism or trying to grab their
This failure of real Guardian readers to fall in line with what some idiots (yes, the right has them too!)
think is the liberal lefty Guardian agenda is nothing unusual, try the comments on
this Guardian article on Asylum seekers. The great majority of the serious commenters are against the idea of too
ready asylum, express scepticism about the claim of this overstaying Nigerian and are against the idea that someone
with numerous health issues who would be a burden on our society should simply be granted leave to stay.
We all have different opinions but the great majority of people in the UK have similar concerns on many issues
and opinion polls show it. Unfortunately, too much attention is paid to those who try to cast anyone who does not agree
with their extreme ideas as extremists.
Sympathy rises with respect
Although not a fan of international aid in general, we do agree with it being used to help those struck by
natural disasters. Most of us are also much more willing to help when we see that the recipients do what they can to
help themselves and, from the TV reports, the Fillipinos certainly seem to be doing that.
The coincidence storm
We have said before that coincidences create themselves. You latch on to the few things that do chime and
forget the many more that don't. All events are in accord with statistics but we are selective about our recording of
them. Most logical, xoggoth, we hear you cry!
Trouble is, we are no longer entirely convinced by our own logic. Take that old man
we reported seeing over and over again on our occasional (once and, rarely, twice a week)
trips to town. If our theory had been correct we should have seen him no more, just a run of coincidence, but
the sightings will not stop. We keep seeing him; we saw him yesterday and again today. Here he is, in chilly November,
dressed exactly as he was in the last photo taken in August:
What is even crazier is that #1 son, who works nights, reports regularly seeing him when he comes home from work
at 7 am. Either this old bloke spends his entire day walking backwards and forwards to town to keep fit or
he is part of a coincidence that is off the scale of probability.
If only he was the only one. I dig out my old records from the attic, listen to a tune I have not heard in
decades, turn on the car radio and there it is. Following a tip I spent much of this morning looking at investments in
storage pods, including the growth of the market in the US. So what is The Simpsons about this evening? They
discover apparently gay apparel in Grandpa Simpson's storage pod which looks just like the one on my brochure!
From now on we are keeping a log, this deserves further study. At the very least it will make a silly xoggoth
PS It was 14.05 not 15.05, knew we forgot to put the clock back on something.
PPS The last photo we posted of the old bloke was taken on the 22nd too. This is getting creepy!
Update 23/11/13. Here we go. Just yesterday, two posts down, I gave a link to Tor, AKA the Darknet. Never seen it
in the mainstream press. So what's in
The Daily Mail today?
Henry VII was a great chap, really
Our village has traffic lights due to laying of new water pipes and the work is scheduled to last until mid January.
As is usual with such works, absolutely bugger all seems to be going on. We expected the length of the road to have
been dug up by now but there are just a couple of small holes. WTF are they doing closing the whole road?
Must be just to annoy the public, as are most road works.
However, we have discovered from a local source that the pipe is actually being laid, they are using horizontal
drilling which does not require the whole length to be dug. We do apologise for doubting you
clancydocwra, please assure Henry VII that we are his most loyal of subjects.
Being seen to be doing something
We have questioned before whether this emphasis on tackling
illegal online pornography is actually doing much at all to reduce sexual abuse of children. Fewer images on
the (visible) internet may make child abuse less obvious but will it stop it happening in the
Now things are looking really silly with the latest measures by Google. Now, if you type
"child pornography" into the search engine you see a warning ad at the top that child porn is illegal.
Hmmm, I daresay that blokes all know that anyway, will a little ad do anything? Unless it is going to do long term
tracking and perform pattern analysis of searches made by individuals, will even Google be able to distinguish
perverts from others making legitimate searches, a parent concerned about a rash on their baby for example? Are
illegal website owners really so ignorant of SEO that they won't adapt their text to reach the right people?
And what is to stop men just finding illegal stuff on
Still, as long as these measures let politicians feel smug, what else matters?
PS To non existent readers asking why I was Googling "child pornography", the story about the warning is
in The Independent. No specific link as their videos do not
appear to have them.
PPS Phew! At least there′s no warning when you Google "pig pornography". Thank heavens for
that, we thought we might have to find some other online satisfaction.
Forget all this stuff about apes being the nearest living species to humans, except in some strictly scientific,
DNA analysis sense. Who gives a shit about such technicalities?
The nearest relatives we have, in any sense that really matters, are certain members of the camel family.
We have mentioned before just how human and very, ahem, interesting are the
naughty parts of female Llamas.
While other female animals (not that we have been looking of course) just have boring little
holes, they have fantastic slitty bits with flaps and stuff, just like our own ladies. We would encourage our male
non-existent readers to go to their nearest Llama park and take a look for themselves, purely out of scientific
We caught a bit on BBC's Country Watch today about how female Alpacas will discourage the male′s
attentions when they are pregnant by spitting in his face. A big drop in amorous interest when the f* kids are on
the way? That rings a bell too.
So, A WOMAN, wields this incredible power among militant Islamists who are mostly Wahhabinists, members of a creed that
comes from Saudi Arabia where women have few rights at all? Men who follow the most extreme interpretations of the
idiotic Islamic texts, who believe that women have half the intelligence of men, that they must satisfy
their needs on demand, that they cannot leave home without a husband′s permission, that they can only inherit half
what a man can inherit, that their testimony in a court of law is worth half that of man′s, men who have
assassinated (or tried to) any other women of influence in the Islamic world, are running around obeying the dictats of
this white foreign lady?
Not to say she does not play a part in these groups, after all, women have been willing suicide bombers before
and maybe she did spy on the Kenya Mall, although the Kenyans themselves say they have no evidence of that, it′s
just this notion that she, or any woman, can be a powerful leader that looks like bollux.
We don't know for sure but this looks like another case of The Daily Mail trying, yet again, to counter its
racist image with some politically correct craptrap - hey look! white British people can be major Islamic extremists
Topic: Nice day for a White Widow
Comments so far:
Non existent readers seeking usual Daily Mail rants move on, nowt to see. Drivel follows:
Some things have sentimental value but are of zero worth, like stupid little free toys your kids used to play
with. Can't throw those away, so there is a little collection down in the greenhouse. We have to admit that,
being very puerile, we occasionally add to it with things we find lying around on our runs. Like this
Smurf we found a few weeks back and put next to a miniature bottle to make him look like a drunk.
Then #1 son rearranged things and sabotaged our little tableau by creating a Viz style Up
the Arse exhibit.
Water was dribbling out of the overflow in the water tank and was probably adding at least 10p a week to our water
bill! Anyway, looked a simple job, so we replaced the main ballcock and valve only to find one joint kept dripping.
Among all the bits in our shed we soon found a suitable seal, sorted. Think it was a brake cylinder seal from
our old 1970s Morris Marina van. Didn't we always say it would come in handy one day?
Utter crap - no hang on - utter FUCKING crap
The papers report that
treasury coffers would be boosted if employers paid the living wage. You can find the figures of this study
(ha! ha!) here. So the government
gets more due to increased tax and NI from these employees and increased employer NICs, less, er, er.....
Less NOTHING! There is no account taken of reduced company profits and the consequent reduction in corporation
tax or their employer's tax and NI, no account taken of the fact that they will be less able to afford to take on other
employees and get them off the welfare bill.
Anyone who is taken in by this crap must think that money can be conjured out of nowhere. For such lefty idiots
we have a great idea. Why not make employers pay everyone £1 million a year? Just think how much better off we would
Mutual obligation should be just that - mutual
You take a job, you work hard and fulfill your obligations as an employee in accordance with your contract.
Your employers treats you well, provide you with salary, holiday and perks, again in accordance with the contract you
both agreed to. So when you leave, do those employers still owe you anything, apart from good will and a decent
reference? Of course not! Why should they? You worked for them and you were fully paid for the work you did!
So why, when the British government provides any sort of employment for foreign nationals, is there always this
assumption that Britain has an open ended duty towards them?
This is one of the more trivial examples of the sort of case we have in mind.
If he had been engaged in covert operations or knowingly putting himself at risk, like some of those who worked
for us in Iraq, it would be right to protect him and his family but there is nothing in that article to suggest that was
the case. We are supposed to have a duty to protect this man from his own government, to take in him and his family and
to provide for them simply because he worked as a security guard at one of our embassies.
A more significant example is the
25,000 Gurkhas who retired before 1997 demanding
equal pensions to British army retirees. Like any employees they received what they were promised in accordance with
the contracts of employment they agreed to, including pension rights which would have seen them quite reasonably well
off if they had remained in Nepal as was the intention at the time. But, thanks to that F* cow Joanna Lumley, the
previous government caved in and let them settle in the high cost UK where such pensions are inadequate. Now we have
to up their pensions to the level of Gurkhas who signed up after 1997.
1997 eh? I think I will write to the place I used to work at then and demand they pay me to make up for the salary
and pension I have now decided I ought to have had, otherwise I will get my lawyers on to them.
Yuck! Just by chance came across the word Noma. You don't want to do a Google images search of that! Even worse
than a Google of Krokodil.
This means WAR!
Interesting stats on religious belief in England and Wales
here. Between the last national census in 2011 and the previous one in 2001:
The number of people declaring ‘No religion’ has jumped from 14.6% in 2001 to 25.1% in 2011
The number of Christians has fallen from 71.7% of the population to 59.3%
The number of Muslims has grown from 3.1% of the population to 4.8%
At some time in the future there may be a UK composed mainly of sane rational people, ie those who are not
convinced by the illogical nonsense of any established religion, and Muslim loonies who believe in the biggest
pile of widely accepted, irrational crap in the history of humanity.
Interesting times lie ahead.
Good old Express
Mentioned the obsessions of The Daily Express before, including their repeated warnings of weather disasters.
Other papers have reported The Met Office prediction of strong winds on Sunday night and Monday with a potential
for gusts of over 80mph, especially on exposed coasts. In the Express this becomes
MEGASTORM: Devastating 100mph winds to bring 48 hours of ‘utter hell’.
Last week they warned of
Apocolyptic weather. Watch out for pale riders. Maybe we need some more stories about F* Princess Diana to ward off
That nasty right wing Daily Express
has also revealed
that nearly a quarter of Birmingham's residents were born abroad and that only one in three school pupils is white
without saying how utterly fantastic that is. Still, at least they do quote a Birmingham City Council spokesman who
said that: "Birmingham’s diversity makes it the great city that it is, and has done so for many years.".
Social problems now so bad that it compares unfavourably with communist Cuba, and parts of Eastern Europe.
Infant mortality rates almost twice the national average and “worse than in Cuba and on a par with Latvia and Chile”.
Having 12 of the 20 neighbourhoods which have declined most dramatically in the whole of England over the past 10 years.
A third of children growing up in households on low incomes.
The highest levels of homelessness in the country and double the national unemployment rate.
Let's have a look at London where
the borough with the highest proportion of Black and Minority Ethnic (BME) residents, has the lowest employment
rate in the UK and is among the worst in the UK for poor health and high crime.
According to the Independent, Newham is the most deprived borough in England. London24 brands Stratford, in Newham, as
the crime hotspot of the UK.
All coincidence obviously. Or the white British minorities in the worst areas are dragging everyone down. Yes, that
must be it!
Here they go again
Yet again, the religious are demanding
rights at the expense of others. Other staff members had to cover for her in order that this Christian could have
Sundays off. It may be that this woman had a verbal agreement before starting work but and it is reasonable that that
should be honoured but her claim does not appear to restrict rights to such cases. If her legal challenge succeeds it may
grant rights to those of all religons to similarly demand specific days off, including Christians on Sundays,
Muslims on Fridays and Jews on Saturdays.
While there should be no problem making such arrangements if they do not inconvenience others how often, in most
small workplaces, will that be the case? And what days can atheists demand to have off, when F* Christians, Muslims and
Jews will be obliged to fill in for them? Oh no, silly us, they can't can they? Because they don't believe in
irrational f* bollox, they have to adhere to the contract they signed when they took the job.
Time the modern world gave religion the boot. It does nothing whatever for human behaviour as so many facts,
including the overrepresentation of Muslims and Catholics in our prisons, show. This millstone has been around
humanity's neck for far too long.
A couple of staunchly religious beekeepers who refused to file their VAT returns online have won a landmark battle with the taxman.
Graham and Abigail Blackburn run a small business making honey, and were told they had to follow the new guidelines on tax returns.
But the couple refused – because they are members of the Seventh Day Adventist church, who shun modern technology.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2470227/Christian-beekeepers-win-case-HMRC-post-VAT-return.html#ixzz2iRZBzNnp
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Damn it! We hate Google. Yes, it (or any other search engine) is great for looking up things at times.
EXCEPT, when you want to look up something to see what it was that something else reminded you of, that something
else that you were reminded of has been completely drowned by reports about the thing that reminded you of it.
We trust that's clear.
No? Oh ok, here's today's example. Our MP, Fatty Soames,
has lambasted another MP, Adam Afriye, for trying
to force Camoron to hold a referendum on the EU before the next election. Concentrating on the important issue here,
he has has called him a chateau-bottled nuclear powered ****. Chateau-bottled? That brings up a memory and
when you are, if not quite senile, old enough to be losing your memories that matters. Yet we cannot find why we have
fond memories of the phrase chateau-bottled because Google brings up lots of stuff about Fatty Soames.
Hang on, hang on. The Rolling Stones? Marianne Faithful? No, wait, a cat! It's coming! "Our cat is chateau
bottled, has a label on his navel". Nope, that's not on Google either. Hang on. The carrier pidgeon of memory is
arriving in its own good time. It was something some odd chap kept saying at school.
We looked up "St Josephs Catholic Primary School turd in urinal" on Google. It's not there either! Damn it!
PS And every time I have Googled "where did I leave my car keys" it has been no help either. If Google can't
even answer a simple question like that about recent events how can you trust anything it says about the
Keep targetting celebs and dead people
In the wake of the Jimmy Saville Affair the investigation into historic "child" abuse rumbles on,
concentrating on celebrities although, in many of these cases, they were only children in the legal rather than
the biological sense. Let's be honest here, if you were a pop star and some fully developed and experienced teenager
threw herself at you, would you ask for her birth certificate? Really?
But is this investigation ignoring the real paedophiles? Those powerful men who took advantage of children in every
sense of the word, often vulnerable kids in care homes? Somehow, this aspect of the allegations seems to have been
pushed under the carpet. It seems to have been accepted that MP Cyril Smith was one such but he is dead, how convenient!
Was he really the only one? We at bloggoth do not intend to risk being sued but the non existent readers can easily
find for themselves who the allegations have been made against and there are some very well known names in the
political sphere, men still living.
Are they all innocent? Unless
this story in The Daily Express is a complete fabrication, probably not. Lots of hand wringing about failures to
bring the influentual and powerful to justice in the past but has anything really changed?
When did we ever get to the point where we can do nothing by ourselves? So much industry that used to be
British, our steel, car and chemical industries, our utilities, is now dominated by foreign ownership.
Now we can't even build our own nuclear plants, they have to be provided by France or
If our useless governments hadn't procrastinated about new power stations for decades, leaving us with a serious
threat of power shortages, we could have built them while we still had experts who were not retired or dead. Will
foreign companies have the UK's interests at heart? Of course not. Many British companies are rip off merchants too but
at least the profits are more likely to stay here and they are easier for our government to regulate.
(BRUSSELS) - EU nations issued more safety alerts on consumer products than ever last year, with Chinese products
again accounting for most of the potentially dangerous items, a European Commission report showed Thursday.
The number of dangerous consumer products notified through the EU's rapid alert system (RAPEX) rose by seven percent
in 2009, extending an upward trend which has continued unabated since statistics were first collected from member
states in 2004.
China increased its record as the country where most of those notified products originated last year, alone accounting
for 60 percent of the 1993 cases in question, up slightly from 59 percent in 2008.
And we are going to allow these people to build nuclear power stations in our country? Osbourne say the strictest
safety standards will be observed but, if we no longer have the expertise to buld our own plants, do we
really still have the expertise to properly monitor what others are providing?
If the Chinese are to be involved in building nuclear power plants in England, we at bloggoth are looking to move
to the Outer Hebrides. Should be reasonably safe when large parts of the UK are irradiated due to Chinese
control rods made of processed rice and pressure vessels made from old milk bottle tops.
The idiocy of green energy in the EU
In Brazil they are lucky enough to be able get much of their energy from "green" (if you ignore the direct
impact on the environment that is) hydro-electric power but they are an exception. Coal is the main source of
energy in China and India and other countries
are concentrating on building coal-fired power stations to meet their needs.
We have said it before, but it is quite pointless pursuing some green policies in the West unless there is a global
strategy because they push our costs up and drive manufacturing to third world and developing countries where fuel
efficiency is understandably less important. Add in the fuel oil needed for transport and this does not reduce greenhouse
gases, it increases it.
Still, never mind that, as long as we can be smug about our green policies.
Got an uninvited wad of 8 Christmas cards complete with envelopes from a charity in the post today. It was all
good stuff, for anyone who can ever be arsed to send Christmas cards anyway. How much did that cost them? On the other
hand I suppose many may send them money, even mean uncharitable bastards like we at bloggoth might if we ever get
round to it.
The charity in question was Mouth and Foot Painting Artists. It's incredible what people can do without use of hands.
But why do they only use mouths and feet? What's wrong with arse, fanny or knob Painting?. You can stick paintbrushes in
But did they send anybody posing as a black or Asian landlord saying they preferred somebody of their
own ethnicity to see what chance whites had of renting a room in predominantly ethnic areas? Of course not.
The same article mentions a survey by the Runnymede Trust that found that 29% of black people looking for
accomodation reported discrimination as opposed to 1% of whites. It's impossible to draw any exact conclusions since
other ethnic groups, geographical distribution and relative levels of ownership all come into the equation but,
given that the black population is about 3%, that does not look out of line with the assumption that blacks and whites
are equally racist.
On the issue of racism we always get these slanted investigations or selective reporting of the facts.
It's ok to compare responses to similar CVs with white and Asian names on but has anyone even questioned why it is
that Asian shops and restaurants only ever seem to employ, legally or otherwise, Asians of the same ethnicity?
When it is reported that young black men are more likely to be unemployed does anyone dare to point out that,
according to DOE reports, their qualifications are significantly lower?
The white British might be a bit more in favour of multiculturalism if implications of racism, and blame
generally, were not always dumped solely at their doorstep.
A long time ago, the comedy duo Punt and Dennis did a thing called
Spot the stiff in which you have to geuss which character
in a war film will soon be dead. Anybody talking fondly about how, as soon as the war is over, he looks forward
to life with his darling wife Maisy, raising chickens and sitting on the porch watching the sunset - Dead! As far as
war films went it was amazingly accurate but it wasn't just war films. You can usually spot who is going to end up dead
in many other films too - when me and #1 son are watching some old crap one of us will say DEAD and we are usually
Hmmm. But is this strange perception limited to films? We read
this news item on Richard Branson today and for some reason DEAD popped into our head. We trust we are wrong.
Real issues? Eh?
There has been much fuss recently about The Daily Mail's comments on Ed Milliband's communist father and we don't
really blame Moribund for reacting to them; who wants smears concerning one's family in the press? By "smear",
we do not mean that the comments are necessarily untrue, just that they are a deliberate attempt to besmirch by
association. His father was a Marxist and therefore, we are supposed to think, Moribund is also a Britain-loathing
closet Marxist whose secret Stalinesque tendencies will only become clear after the next election.
Of course it is perfectly reasonable to comment on the character of a party leader who may (the atheist god forbid)
be our PM in a couple of years but people do not necessarily mirror their fathers. Why is it necessary to dig up
such stuff anyway when the nature of this dipstick is fully apparent from his own idiotic leftist speeches and policies?
His nickname is "Red Ed", after all. The left are no better, focusing on the words of some loon in UKIP
or lambasting leading Tories as privileged toffs is much less hastle than serious argument about polices.
Wouldn't it be great if political debate in this country focused on the real issues?
Give it a few years
Predictably, there has been much fuss by lefties recently about the "spare room tax" whereby those in
council houses that are too big for them lose some of their benefit.
Anyone who has not done volunteer work that has taken them into many council houses and also been a cheapskate
contractor living in some pretty rough rented bedsits may not appreciate that accomodation provided
to those who rely on the state is much better than anything that others at the low end of the income spectrum can afford.
Yet heaven forbid that that those who can't or don't fully support themselves should be expected to reduce the burden
on those who do by giving up any luxuries whatever!
Lefties would like to abolish the "spare room tax" and make it ok to depend on others to provide things
the latter often cannot afford themselves. They would also like to bring in a real property tax
(as opposed to a "tax", ie a reduction in handouts) on larger houses without any consideration of how hard the owners have had to work
to acquire them or how much tax they have already paid.
How long before these lefty twats are in power again? Less than two years probably, given the electorial
bias in favour of the Labour Party and the large numbers of mainly left-voting immigrants, with
77 marginal seats where Muslim voters alone could tilt the balance.
When it comes to other legislation on property, will there be a reward for those who helped them to power?
The mispelt quote mentions a publican. Publicans feature in the New Testament quite a bit and in those days
they were not pub landlords but tax collectors! Not that we beleive in him, but if he had existed, WTF was JHC doing
forgiving tax collectors? Bastards! We a bloggoth are totally on the side of the Pharisees in this one. What is a bit
of self righteous smugness compared to demanding taxes from ordinary people so they can be wasted by the state?
Notwithstanding its excellent anti-EU approach, we have always felt that The Daily Express is a truly crappy paper.
Apart from being the wrong sort of right (christian values, royalty, establishment, toffs) it has such totally
Today's headlines has two of the main ones including a thing on Princess F* Diana, yet again! Definitely no 2 on the
all time most tedious dead person list, after Stephen F* Lawrence obviously. Then there's the usual prediction that
we are going to get the worst winter in decades. Seem to recall they said that last year and the year before that.
Do they just make it up? The only online long range forecasts for the UK that we can find give no hint of it at all.
Not true for other parts of the world. If the DE is correct, we can only conclude that the UK is to become part of
the Rocky Mountains in the next few months.
So what do we do with the garden come next year? We ain't really into gardening, unlike the missus, but don't want
it to be a total tip. It's got to look reasonably good with minimum boring effort.
We have already extended the lawn area, lawns are easy if you don't look too closely, and made a nice pond which
will hopefully be infested with MR PIKEY SCUM biting mosquitoes next summer. Not sure if Mosquitoes never bite we at
bloggoth because we are nice to them or if we just suffer no reaction to them whatever. Either way, a pond is a great
downside-free neighbour tormentor. Lots of Raspberry bushes is another idea, we love Raspberries, although we would
probably die of an overdose if we planted too many.
Another must is Lilies. Apparently
they are fatal to cats who simply brush against them. Wahee! Creepy little bastards!
Old Dreams, past life, look in the attic
Got a plumber coming this week so had to tidy up the attic so he could find the pipes.
Attics hold far more of our lives than the rooms we actually live in. The latter are constantly
changed in accordance with practical requirements, the whims of fashion or so they look good to visitors.
Our real history ends up in the attic.
We were most annoyed recently to find that the Greek "Burial Jacket"
that we brought in Athens when we hitchiked there in 1969 had been eaten to buggery by clothes moths and we had to
chuck it out. It did look rather like I was wearing a mini skirt though, no wonder that chap in Istanbul got the wrong
Still got other even older stuff though, like this painting, circa 1967, based on a nightmare.
The London Fire Brigade has reported some of its strangest callouts. One case involved a man who
had his penis stuck in a toaster. A toaster? We can understand sticking it in something warm and wet, like a pile of
fresh horse manure or the dog, but a toaster? How can anyone be turned on by bonking a toaster?
We trust fellow horse manure/dog bonkers will join us in roundly condemning such disgusting perversity.
The day that man nearly invented the wheel
Stupid applications of technology - 1
We have a Samsung cyclone vacuum cleaner. You can use it a couple of times with just emptying the cyclone chamber
before the power drops off drastically and then you have to clean the tiny (about 5 square inches) foam outlet pad in
water and washing up liquid to remove the fine dust the cyclone does not collect. This is not a criticism of Samsung,
their stuff is great, but a criticism of the utterly ridiculous concept of using a cyclone in a domestic cleaner.
This is not what cyclones are any f* good at and we know what we are talking
about, having worked in the cement industry where they use huge cyclones in the manufacturing process. We have even
done mathematical modelling of the things! A cyclone is great for cheaply separating the major part of the solid particles
from a gas with a high dust concentration, where the material has a high density and where the particle size is
relatively large or where it flocculates. It is
pretty useless at separating light or fine dust in low concentrations and no cyclone can discharge directly to atmosphere, a
more effective device like a bag filter or electrostatic precipitator is needed to finish the job.
It is possible to improve cyclone collection efficiency of fine particles but the power required goes up
with the square of the inverse of the particle size, it's all about centrifugal forces. A 5kw vacuum cleaner would
probably work quite well but a cheaper and a more practical solution is to ditch the cyclone and just use an old
fashioned dust bag so you only have one thing to empty.
You have to hand it to Dyson, making a fortune from a bollux application of an ancient device which was invented
by person or persons unknown before patents existed and which the ignorant public found so thoroughly cool
that all the other manufacturers felt obliged to copy it.
What a joke!
Real democracy should not just be about winning elections, it should be about delivering the society that most
Worst of all, the Liberal "Democrats" refused to back
electoral boundary changes that would have made
our elections results more representative of public opinion. Revenge on the Conservatives for not backing their changes
to the House of Lords was more important to them than ensuring the electorate is properly represented.
Still, at least they were consistent in that last one, why give a damn about proper voter representation if you don't
give a shit about voter's opinions anyway? Democrats? What a f* joke! While nobody would seriously compare Liberal
"Democrat" policies with theirs in other ways, Clegg, like so many others on the left, does have
something in common with Stalin, Mao Zedong or Pol Pot. Just like them, he puts his own ideals and beliefs first
and what the people he supposedly represents think is just not important.
PS It isn't as though the British are uniquely xenophobic on the issue of Europe, the citizens of the other largest
EU countries are sick of it as well. According to
Europe wide polls 59% of Germans,
56% of French and an astonishing 72% of Spanish no longer trust this institution.
Polls in Germany indicate that half want to repatriate powers from Europe as opposed to 26% who oppose
These Liberal "Democrats" are not even representing the views of citizens in the Europe they claim to
As expected, in the wake of the sinking of a migrant boat on the way to Lampedusa, the usual idiots,
AKA human rights groups, are demanding that we somehow make migration much easier so people don't resort to desperate
measures like crowding onto unsafe boats. That they should just be allowed to turn up at any embassy and claim asylum
without even leaving their own countries.
Nobody wants to see people drowned, especially children who don't make their own decisions, but there has to be a limit
on what the first world can take in. Have these human rights sorts ever done any basic research? Have they calculated
just how many people in poor, third world countries or in nations with conflicts or repressive governments would leave
if it was easy? How many more can we let into Europe without overwhelming our own societies? Without bringing our own
economies down towards their levels, with more unemployment, crime, poor health and overcrowding, without destroying the
advancement of centuries with the poor education and backward attitudes that characterise much of the third world?
Properly vetted high acheivers are a different matter but anyone who thinks African migrants generally are assets, let
alone those from nations like Somali or Eritrea where many of these illegals come from, is living in a dreamworld of
ignorance and we suggest they try checking the facts.
Unless we totally threw open our borders and provided free transport would simpler asylum claims help? Given
the numbers of people who would want to come to Europe if it was much easier, and we could be talking millions, probably
not. If we let in a few hundred thousand more each year, the trafficers would drop their prices and supply and demand
would soon see these unsafe boats as full as ever. Maybe the more rational solution is to tighten up on asylum and
immigration generally. To tighten up the visa system and border controls, to crack down on illegal migrants and throw
them out without right of appeal, to stop allowing asylum claims except in accord with the UN convention and where there
is a high degree of proof of their case, to put the safety of our citizens first even when asylum seekers do have a
genuine case, to stop every migrant we do accept creating an open door for relatives, to stop allowing migrants access
to our welfare, social housing or health service unless they have already made a proportionate contribution in tax and
People will only stop risking their lives if nothing worth the risk is being offered.
Eye of beholder
Why do perfectly reasonable looking young people do such hideous things to themselves? Almost every young
bloke you meet now seems to have a horrible tattoo on his arm. Those little studs both sexes have in their eyebrows,
cheeks, lips and side of the nostrils are even worse, they look like silver warts.
Why don't they just wait until they get old? Then they will get lots of discoloured patches and lumps
from mother nature and it won't cost a penny. That's an idea! If looking hideous is trendy among young people, why
do us oldies worry about it? Rather we should regard all those signs of ageing as marvellous free decoration!
It is quite a comfort, when a missus goes, to have a son still living at home, even one as wierd as #1.
Brought some conservatory furniture today, including a glass top table (no Una Stubbs jokes please) so naturally
we used it for a wind-up yappy teeth race, the loser made the next cup of tea.
Wouldn't it be great if, instead of boring cars, we all went to work on huge wind-up yappy teeth? Of course
they are hopeless at following any sensible path and tend to go randomly round in circles but that wouldn't matter
if we were not so anal about qualifications. So what if a plumber ends up at the vets surgery, he should take it in
his stride and get stuck in. Fixing a ballcock in a water tank, sticking your hand up a cow to deliver a calf in the
breach position, much the same thing really, if you can do one you can surely do the other.
A couple of popes are to be made saints having, supposedly, performed the necessary couple of miracles each.
We will leave it to the non-existent readers to check into the details of those in the unlikely event they are interested
but these miracles are never proven facts. Firstly, there may be doubts about the diagnosis in the first place. You only
have to read the news of the latest suings of the NHS to realise how common misdiagnosis is, even in first world
countries. Secondly, it is sometimes possible to find cases of similar unlikely recoveries from the same condition when
no divine intervention was ever requested.
Case studies aside, it is the rareness of these events that should make these people question them. How many religious
people, when gravely ill, when in pain or facing death, pray to the lord or one of his earthly representatives? Without
doubt, given human nature, a pretty significant proportion, if not most. How many are actually cured? Almost none unless
miracles are grossly underreported. So what can do we conclude? The obvious one is that the frequency of these very
unlikely recoveries is entirely in line with chance.
Another explanation, for those who insist on believing in irrational crap, is that the almighty is so bloody selective
in whom he deems worthy of help that most people might as well give up religion. The chance that you are one of the tiny
elite he cares about, who might be admitted to paradise, is pretty negligible. Get out and enjoy the one life that
we know exists.
No matter how rational you think you are
Of no interest to those who are not fascinated by nature but we intended to make an observation a few months back
and never got round to it, about the interaction of man and wildlife.
It concerned the silence in a
place we had been running in and the lack of bird song which contrasted so sharply with the almost
continual cacophony in our garden, the harsh rasp of Magpies, the repetitive woo-woohing of Doves and Pidgeons, the
chatter of Sparrows, the evening chorus of Thrushes and Blackbirds, the tiny twitterings of Bluetits or the
varied song of the male Robin whose volume belies his tiny form.
If the presence of man is quite so destructive of nature, we were going to ask, how come these birds seem much more
common in areas close to us than those more remote? It was a valid point in general we think, there does seem more
natural activity closer to home than in other areas and maybe the things we do, feeding birds, cultivating
different plants that encourage insect variety, clearing land to provide varied habitats and nesting sites,
digging our gardens to expose worms and other food, can actually be positive for many bird and mammal species.
Not to mention laying lawns that that F* badger loves ripping up!
But we ran through that same place again today and it isn't typical of the country around here except in
appearance. It is a large oval field of uncultivated, unkempt grass entirely surrounded by trees like many others in
the area. The footpath runs through the middle. Nothing unusual about it all - except for the stillness and silence.
In other similar fields you may see deer, rabbits, pheasants or birds flying overhead but not in this one. When we say
there is no bird sound we mean NO bird sound, nothing at all. No other sound either, although it not far from a road
you can hear no cars. Only after we had just left it and run onto the adjacent woods did we actually hear the roar of
the approaching aircraft from the nearby airport. We did think of running back into the field to see if the sound
disappeared but thought that was a bit too silly.
We will try it next time. This field is open, green and sunny. But definitely, very, very creepy.
What the hell are we doing to ourselves?
It is common in Britain for any mention of problems with migrants and minorities to be denounced as racism
despite the facts that are available from government and other sources. Even if the realities are acknowledged they are
largely blamed on racism and exclusion despite the facts, again from reputable sources, that show that migrants'
success, beliefs and practices in the UK tend to mirror those in the countries of origin.
But there are some beliefs and practices that even the most idiotic liberals cannot blame on us, like
honour killings, forced marriage, FGM, acid attacks on women, belief in witchcraft or beating of children to drive out
evil spirits. Now there is another barbarism we appear to be importing from West Africa,
breast ironing, in which young girls have their chests pounded with hot objects to delay development. Not surprisingly
it is hugely painful and may cause permanent deformation.
There are unlikely to be any compensating factors for UK citizens due to the presence of these people.
A 2007 report showed
that 39% of Ghanaians and 29% of Nigerians in the UK live in social housing, compared to 17% of British born.
We can find no figures for those from Cameroon, where this latest barbarism mainly comes from, but
this report suggests their
contribution is probably even lower because many are French speaking and have poor English.
Given the basic premise, which we would regard as self evident, that British citizens do not have a duty to provide
for those of other nations, nor to solve all their problems, can anyone please explain just why it is that any reasonable
person should NOT object to the importation of such backwardness into our once advancing nation when there
are no plus sides for us whatever?
Topic: What are we doing to ourselves?
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A real opportunity to save money
Didn't see it, but the BBC's Panorama has raised questions about
the guilt of Shrien Dewani, who is accused of arranging his wife's murder in South Africa.
We at bloggoth have no idea if he is guilty or not but we are intrigued that high profile criminal cases are
being so thoroughly investigated by the press/media. This must have reduced the cost of Dewani's defence
as members of the jury who have seen or read about the program will already be at least partially convinced of his
innocence, whatever the prosecution may say.
More press/media investigations into high profile cases would reduce the need for time spent by overpaid lawyers and
judges, saving taxpayers' money and providing entertainment into the bargain. When celebrities are involved, and there's no
shortage of such cases, why stop with investigative documentaries? What is the point of making a jury sit for days,
sometimes weeks, in dingy courtrooms when we already have millions of willing jurors sitting there in front of their TV
screens! Let's put entire trials on TV and let the public decide. We can imagine it now, the program could run on Saturday
and Sunday evenings and be called Strictly Come Judging. Introduced by good old Bruce Forsyth of course.
And Claudia Winkelman, we do like Claudia.
PS Innocent! Rolph would never do such a thing.
PPS Just as well the charges concern girls, otherwise that Two Little Boys song would really have counted
When will some people wake up about the nature of Islam?
In every part of the world where Islam has a significant presence, including
Indonesia, Malaysia, The Phillipines, Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Nigeria, Kenya, the Central African
Republic and Tanzania, there is major violence against others.
Yet some prefer to continue living in their dreamworld of ignorance, denying the realities or citing scripture to
argue that these people who claim to act in the name of peaceful Islam are somehow not really Muslims. What the hell
difference does it make what we call them when they all spring from the Muslim population? Who is responsible for the
rising tide of Islamic violence against others in what were once fairly safe nations like Bangladesh or Indonesia,
Chinese immigrants? Are the Jihadists in the West really coming from atheist backgrounds? How many times have we read of
extremists who were once moderate, Westernised young men?
What made them change, studying the bible? These arguments are as idiotic as quoting the Gospel to prove the
Spanish inquisition had nothing to do with Christianity.
Extreme Islam, false Islam, pseudo Islam, whatever you want to call it, has only the one source, Islam in general.
The more Muslims you take in, the more extremists and terrorists you will get.
We need to focus on extremism in particular without further marginalising law-abiding Muslim citizens of the UK to avoid
making the problem worse but it makes no sense whatever to encourage the growth of Islam with any further immigration
from Muslim countries. Immigration from them, except with the highest level of checks, needs to stop now.
Three years ago the then head of MI5, Sir Jonathan Evans, warned that Muslim extremists from the UK were increasingly
switching from Pakistan to Somalia to receive training in militant camps. “It is only a matter of time before we see
terrorism on our streets inspired by those who are today fighting alongside al-Shabaab,” predicted Sir Jonathan.
At the time, about a 100 UK passport-holders were estimated to be in Somalia. That number is believed to have grown
threefold, along with others from Europe and America seeking to join the jihad. The upward trend has continued despite
the recent rush to Syria.
Maybe, if any "Briton" goes to a nation like Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan etc. without proven peaceful
reason, we should not let them back in. It is time the safety of the real British, of whatever origin, came
Privileged means confined to an exclusive or chosen group. While wealth can buy privilege, simply earning a good
salary is not in itself privilege and the term is more accurately applied to those who live in overlarge homes at the
expense of ordinary taxpayers who could never afford such space themselves. Yes, of course it must be stressful
for somebody to have to move out of their home, but equally it is stressful for working people to struggle to
pay the rent on what they are paid after the taxman has taken all his cuts *, for business
people to have to cope with ever more onerous taxes and red tape.
Changes in welfare policy will often cause problems and stress but, in the long term, we cannot keep spending money
on what is unecessary. While some compassion is desirable in enforcing the policy on occasions, it is insane in general
to keep destroying the incentive of working people and the efficiency of productive businesses to provide unecessary
benefits for those who already get more than they contribute.
Topic: Socialist Idiots
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* Yes, we mean cuts, plural. The tax and NI the ordinary man sees in his pay slip are the tips of the iceburg.
Corporation tax, employer's NI and the huge costs of complying with all the government red tape and form filling
have already vanished from what his employer might have been otherwise have been able to pay him. When he spends he is
not just paying VAT but all those same costs for the suppliers that might otherwise have allowed for a cheaper
No updates from the Good Lord? How come?
What are the most annoying things in life? That's a hard question to answer when you are a ranty old git because
absolutely everything, from the global operations of our political leaders to the gardening activities of close neighbours
is annoying! One common minor annoyance is software updates, you cannot turn on your PC without yet another update,
especially from Adobe. How many years have they been doing Adobe Reader? You would think they would have got what is
basically a single format document reader about right by now, so it didn't need updating every F* week!
Mind you, software like Adobe's is definitely another argument against the existence of a caring god. If
companies created by mere mortals can remotely improve their creations, how come the almighty never thought of it or
couldn't manage it? Why do we grow progressively older and frailer? How is it that, if we recover from illness and
injury, it is often only due to the efforts of other men? Why can't he send us a regular health update? You may say
that this is like expecting software updates to modernise your PC hardware. Maybe, but then the non-existent bastard
is supposed to be omnipotent, so it isn't expecting too much for him to do a bit more than Adobe can manage. At least
he could do a few memory upgrades, stop us being forgetful, prevent dementia. If that isn't the biological equivalent
of a program update, what is?
What would you do?
This is getting a bit awkward. What do you do when a lady regularly calls round in an extremely
plastered state, saying her husband doesn't f*/love her anymore and getting very clutchy? Answers
on a postcard SVP.
PS: she is quite ancient. If she was a bit younger we would not even ask. Or if her husband
was not an ex marine!
Our cheap little driving safety recorder/dashcam is still working well. Well done Chinks, it hasn't blown up yet,
we are impressed! Ready to come to my aid if some bastard runs into me. Oi! Who said you could use my name?
People are often complete hypocrites, being in favour of this and that except when it affects them. Even we
at bloggoth come close at times. We are totally against culling badgers but we would damn well give them, the
stripey little bastard that is destroying my lawn anyway, a darn good shouting at. A darn good beeping at anyway.
Stuck two of those movement detector alarms out there.
If they wake up MR PIKEY SCUM, that will only be fair as we have to stick a big piece of cardboard over the window
if we use the spare room, due to his security light going on and off all night; it must be triggered by moths.
It has to annoy other people as well, it lights up the whole road. ANNOYING NEIGHBOURS? Don't get me started,
too late! Bloody motor powered tools! Nice weekend for a sit outside and the so and so two doors up starts mowing the
lawn or the so and so two doors down gets out his bloody strimmer. Look you idiot, why not just pull the F* weeds out?
Not only is it better exercise but it stays weed-free for longer. And bloody noisy kids! The road is full of hordes
of identical little blond girls riding up and down on bikes and shrieking and screaming their heads off. They
can't really be human surely?
Wait a minute. Are these evil little bastards creeping in at night and digging up my lawn?
Is Mr Badger innocent? Probably. Animals (except cats) can do no wrong in my view. I'm sorry I doubted you
PS MR PS is very quiet and gloomy up at the club these days. I hear he he has severe pain in his teeth.
What a shame! All together now, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
As with any comment about any group there were those, perhaps a majority, it did not apply to but then who
seriously believes he meant ALL Jews? Talk to anyone in their 80s or 90s, pleasant, good natured people like my father
in law and there is still anti-semitism and their complaint is exactly what Chesterton said. It is hard to see
why anyone has a problem with Jews these days but we tend to forget that Judaism has moderated considerably since
Chesterton's time and that Jews have now integrated well. It was not always so.
The problem with the modern tendency to dismiss any criticism of any group as racism is that it often
ignores realities, not just about specific groups and the nature of the countries or creeds which have
shaped their views and practices, but even about human nature itself. All groups, including the white British,
have a higher loyalty to others of their kind, whether by ethnicity, religion or however else defined,
than to those outside. When religious belief encourages a contempt for others, as Islam too often does and as Judaism
once did, or when low achievement feeds resentment, as with too many black youths, the gulf is only widened.
This separation has consequences for us all but it is those within groups who remain outside society that are the
most affected and the culture of silence is a major reason why crimes within major ethnic groups, such as gangland
killings, gang rape, FMG, forced marriage or child abuse are more likely to remain unsolved or never reported at all.
Pretending that any mention of the problems within minorities is unjustified white racism and encouraging separation
will not lead to any solutions. Maybe liberals should consider the minority victims of their idiotic multicultural
society sometimes, or don't black and Asian victims matter in the pursuit of their ideals?
Links on the consequences of multiculturalism:
AUSTRALIAN INSTITUTE OF CRIMINOLOGY:
It is now common knowledge that a large majority of offences that occur in a community remains
unsolved and nothing is known about the perpetrators.
The Guardian on
Nobody knows what the true figure is because so many young victims are terrified of coming forward.
But it is definitely much, much higher than what is reported.
The BBC on FMG:
The victims "are hidden behind a wall of silence", said Lisa Harker of NSPCC.
The Guardian on
Women and girls who are raped in this context rarely seek help and support, or have their victimisation recognised
by professionals. The fear of retribution, and the wider context of neighbourhood violence within which such sexual
assaults take place, should not be underestimated.
NSPCC on child sex abuse:
In those communities where sexual abuse remains a taboo subject, there is more likely to be a fear of reprisals from
a relatively strong community network that may condemn rather than help the victim: anecdotal evidence from the
NSPCC’s Services to minority ethnic children and families support the view that South Asian, African, Caribbean
and Chinese communities all share a common fear of ‘everyone finding out’.
The Telegraph on honour attacks:
But campaigners warn that recorded cases may be just the “tip of the iceberg” with thousands of incidents going
unreported each year because of fear of reprisal, family pressure or inconsistent police recording.
The Muslim Womens' Network:
This report is a welcome path-breaking work focusing on the experiences of Asian and Muslim abused
children. There has been a deafening silence concerning this group in the existing body of work on
sexual abuse of children. In all communities victims of such violence find it difficult to report
sexual abuse and seek support. Among Asians and Muslims this is exacerbated by a culture of honour
and shame that is so powerful as to mask the reality of lived experiences.
The Telegraph on a Birmingham terror plot:
It emerged that some people in Birmingham knew Naseer had sent four other men to Pakistan for training but did not
alert the police. They also warned parents would not raise concerns because many were in denial that their children
could be caught up in serious terror planning.
People are wierd
Not seen any for years, but what a strange thing those "glory holes" were. Some may say that
gays/fags (please choose whichever) are pretty strange anyway but who on earth would spend hours in the cubicle of
a public convenience laboriously digging a hole in the wall with a penknife? Straight blokes would ensure that
any such holes in dilapidated public bogs were suitably filled with bog paper and it would be noticed if anyone
pushed it out, so they might just as well just use some more direct approach anyway. And were they just for viewing
or for poking through? Must be some distinct height problems in latter case, did Ronnie Corbett types bring step
Hmmm. Mens' and womens' convenience are generally adjacent and are mirror images of each other, so the cubicles
may often only be separated by a solid wall. Must remember to take a hammer and chisel next time.
Green - not
Why do people spout idealistic principles but dont' follow them? A woman on Rip Off Britain moved into a new, supposedly
low energy flat, powered by renewable energy and said how pleased she was as she really believed in protecting the planet
etc. When the heating didn't work well, she had to have an electric blanket on all night because it was so cold.
WTF? xoggoth Towers is never heated at night because, being in a village with no gas, it has noisy oil fired heating.
In winter we just use thicker duvets. Try it, you silly woman!
PS: Incidentally, oil-fired hot air heating is the most economical and fastest responding heating you can get. As
usual this year, we topped up with 500l of oil, cost £370, which will easily get us through the winter. Why these hot air
systems are so difficult to get now we have no idea.
Survival of the fattest
Darwin's theory of natural selection was not the first theory of evolution. According to Lamarck, animals
acquired characteristics by striving for them. Each generation then inherited the results of its parents'
efforts and added its own. For example, Giraffes' necks got longer because they kept stretching to reach more leaves,
its longer necked offspring did the same and so on, giving us the modern animal.
Lamark's theory is easily discredited by facts but that's boring! Theories should not be accepted based on
their credibility but on their entertainment value. It would be much more fun if Lamarkian evolution was correct and
every generation inherited and built on the characteristics of their parents, especially if the changes could be
speeded up a bit. For example, fat slobs would have fat slobby babies who would then add their own fat slobbiness and
in a few generations they would produce enormous great limbless balloon-like blobs. Athletes,
on the other hand, would produce superheros after a few generations. Olympic high jumpers would have grand children who
really could leap tall buildings in a single bound.
You might say that high jumper humanity would be far better suited to survival than fat slobby humanity, how would the
latter feed themselves unless they adapted to rolling around in dung heaps and absorbing it through the skin or something?
Don't be silly! Survival of the fittest is a Darwin idea and he has been discredited here on bloggoth. Far too boring.
Ashes to ashes
Rationally, it shouldn't matter what you do with someone's ashes, you could just bung them in the dustbin, but
even we at bloggoth can't manage to be quite that rational. Many just let them be scattered at the crematorium and
have a memorial in the gardens there but, despite all the nice landscaping and the care, it's still an impersonal place,
miles away on the edge of a rather crappy town and next to a noisy road near an industrial estate. We wanted somewhere
more rural and closer to home but can't find anything at all, the historic local churches ran out of room for plaques
about 50 years ago and the National Trust doesn't have memorials in their parks anymore, so missus xoggoth has come
back home. We have a nice little patch near the woods at the back that will make a great little memorial garden.
There are some interesting use of ashes, they get made into jewellary, pots and so on. We plan to make detailed
arrangements for our own demise so the sons don't have all this hastle. Wonder if ashes can be used to make tiles in
a ladies' public convenience? We would enjoy that.
It's about effort
An unusually short (and unranty!) item on Mr Sheep's blog re
Diana Nyad, a 64 year old who has almost completed a 112 mile
swim, reminds me of something I had meant to mention for a while, the astonishing way that some people, despite age or
infirmity, put so much effort into life.
An old lady down the road is nearly 90 but still goes yachting at a local club. She uses a stick and is rather bent
over but she strides up our steep hill at a rate that puts many younger people here to shame, although she told me
recently that she has considerable discomfort in her hip. She also said that, purely because of her age, she is very
unlikely to be offered another hip operation. I have worked with great fat wobbling bastards in their 30s who can't even
walk across the office to the vending machine at the rate she goes uphill but doubtless operations would not be refused
There is no such thing as just money, everything we spend has to come from somewhere else, so maybe there is
no point in expensive operations on people who are unlikely to survive much longer. However, should age be the
sole criteria? Or should we take account of the effort that people put into caring for themselves, keeping fit and
avoiding being a burden on others?
Topic: It's about effort
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The five pillars of REAL wisdom
Needed a vodka and a bit of company after playing the last Youtube thing. Sniff. Darn it! The club was closed, forgot
it's 4pm on a Sunday, so it's just you and me, Mr P. (And Little Pip, Mr P has a little friend to keep him company)
That's an advantage of religion, religious people have all the main objectives, times and places -
Sunday Mass, Eid, Diwali, annual confession, pilgrimages to Mecca etc - set out for them. Us rational sorts who think,
based on the drivelling illogic of them, that the established religions are mostly utter bollux, don't have these
comforting rituals and maybe we are losing out. Comforting rituals can actually be a positive side of religion.
Memorising the Qu'ran, mumbling "Ite Missa est" while choking on incense, wearing silly turbans and toy
swords, being respectful to cows etc are all harmless in themselves and, if it makes people feel good, why not?
That's what we atheists/agnostics need, pointless rituals! In future the Five Pillars of xoggoth wisdom will be:
Shouting "what a bunch of crap!" on awakening every morning and uttering at least 400 obscenities
a day for no particular reason.
Getting drunk at the village club beginning at 2.30 every Sunday. (And Friday and Saturday at 8pm too, but those
are not areligious obligations)
Being tossed off at a local whorehouse each Thursday. Any lady is permitted as long as she conforms with the
non-sacred obligation of xoggothism, she must be cheap. Appearance is not important.
Spending a minimum of 10 minutes each day sorting old bits and pieces in the non-sacred xoggoth shed. For example,
old rubber rings that might come in useful for sealing something must be separated from straight bits of metal
that might be some day be useful for fixing something to some other thing.
Sniffing the bottoms of neighbours' dogs at regular intervals. Contrary to the uninformed opinions of critics of
xoggothism, this is not perversion but an affirmation of the xoggoth belief that man has no special place in the
universe and that the practices of all animals are as valid as our own.
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose
Saw some bit of dull celebrity news about Debbie McGee that reminded me of this old one. The song and the themes,
hippy dressing, singin' the blues, hitchhiking with girlfriends, sex with someone else, feeling good. Takes us back
to when life had a point. Sniff.
PS: "give all my tomorrows for a single yesterday". Damn it. Where's the vodka?
Bastard Blair is not the issue
Lots of stuff in the news, like
this article, about Iraq and the false allegations of WMD having destroyed British belief in interventions.
Is the invented basis for the invasion of Iraq really the main issue? I think the British public have more sense
than that and, in all the interviews on TV I saw, that was not mentioned even once. That lying bastard Blair (who should
be shot) may have diminished confidence in the honesty of government but that is not what mainly concerns people.
What is much more relevant to most is that the invasion of Iraq, justified or not, was an expensive failure. Even
more important still, since it is possible to see some hope for Iraq, was the invasion of Afghanistan, where the chances
of any real improvement in return for all the umpteen billions spent and lives lost are about zero. We helped
get rid of Gaddafi in Libya but so far there has been no spring for those who wanted democracy and secular government.
Factional conflicts continue and Christian and Jewish minorities are now far less safe than they were.
Egypt is a factor too because events there have shown how small the chances of real progress remain in the Arab world
even when the dictators are ousted.
Anyone who has given it real thought will see this idea of
a limited strike to deter future use of chemical weapons for the naive, simplistic crap that it is. Even assuming they
could do it without killing more innocent civilians (if you bomb a store of chemical weapons what happens to the gas?)
or aiding the Islamist rebels
is Assad really just going to ignore it or will there be a response? One scenario will be an attack on Israel.
This could ignite a wider conflict that will kill a darn site more than 300 to 400 people. *
What about our relations with Russia? Do we really need to jeopardise so much for a conflict that is none of our
concern? Especially when it is pointless. After all these threats will Assad (assuming he authorised them in
the first place) really use these weapons again anyway? He is no fool and would know that a second mass gassing
could well change attitudes as that would allow the Camorons and Obummers to claim they were right.
The British public might be more convinced by the need for foreign interventions if they had any belief that they
might actually achieve something other than cost for themselves and prolonged misery for those they tried to help.
* Or 1429, 300000, 35 million, 6 billion or whatever
the latest figure is today.
Multiculturalism is fantastic - let's extend it further
We at bloggoth have had a rethink and are now totally convinced of the value of multiculturalism.
British society deserves great credit for maintaining its class divisions for centuries but it was getting
rather boring and predictable. How refreshing to import lots of exciting new divisions!
Now we can have great new
arguments, like whether we should have a secular democracy or Shariah, whether violent ethnic gangs are due to cultural
failures or white racism, whether women should make their own decisions. All the stale old arguments about government
foreign policy, immigration etc have been given a new impetus by the vested interests of migrants, and the fact that
the ethnic British have somewhat lost control of their own future due to voting non citizens and minority-dominated
marginals just makes everything so much more exciting! And what fun some of these cultures have brought to our staid
society! Things like FMG, honour killings, forced marriage. We even have belief in witches and possession by evil spirits
again, should have never gone away in my opinion. Most importantly, we now have far more groups of people, not just the
rich elite and the working classes, who despise, blame and avoid each other; with a bit of luck we can bring back the
glorious days of Britain's tribal past, before that boring bastard Athelstan went and unified us all.
Since multiculuralism is such a marvellous idea, isn't it time we applied the same principles
to other things like team sports? Requiring all participants to conform to the same rules
is very dull. In football, for example, players should be allowed to throw the ball or hit it with a bat or racket
if they want to. Cage fighters and boxers in the teams should be allowed to attack other players without getting red
cards and why shouldn't a centre forward ride a horse? Let us enrich sport with the same fantastic variety of
attitudes and practices that has so enriched our society as a whole.
Well done Ed
The idiotic idea that we should intervene in Syria is not dead but it's nice to see that
Labour have killed off the even more idotic idea
that we should intervene even before the UN inspectors have concluded, assuming they do, that Assad is responsible.
Not surprisingly, it took about 5 secs of googling to find comments accusing Milliband of weekness, being unable
to make tough decisions. Tough? We need political leaders whose decisions are a) Rational and based on proper facts
and/or realistic assessment and b) Broadly in line with the wishes of the contributing citizens of our so-called
democracy. Only then should we give a shit about whether they are tough enough to push those decisions through.
Update: When interviewed, Milliband seemed surprisingly statesman like and sensible. Please don't overdo it Ed, we
don't want your lot in power, even Camoron is preferable.
Sound advice I should have applied to my garage the other week. Had just woken up and heard an almighty bang
from the garage beneath the bedroom, went down to check and found it very hard to open. It is one of those sectional
doors you lift up and the spring on one side had decided to break, smashing one of the storage boxes.
Foolishly, I decided the problem was the unbalanced load and that it would be easier to lift if I also removed the
spring the other side. Opened the door fully, got up on a ladder and pulled it off, the door went down with a bang
and then I found I couldn't lift it. I had totally underestimated the weight of it. 6.30 in the morning, trapped in a
dark garage with a double metal panelled door
and, worst of all, I was dying for a crap. Fortunately, I had a torch and tools so it only took me 3/4 hour to remove
the top panel and clamber out. Not fun.
We have a new electrically operated garage door now and it is supposed to have a manual emergency lock but, if I
am in there with the door closed, I might keep an old mobile phone in there just in case.
Religion fails again
little while back (not for the first time - yawn) we said how those denied normal sexual outlets in
strictly religious countries will look for abnormal ones and there is plenty of evidence for this, we have posted
reputable links before about the high levels of child abuse in nations like Afghanistan or Uganda.
Homosexuality is also more common in places where it is supposed to be a sin. If frustrated young men are denied
the proper holes they are going to look for other ones. As the old rugby song goes "There's a shortage of good
whores but there's keyholes in the doors and there's knotholes in the floors in Mobile".
According to The BBC Karachi is a gay man's paradise:
Families go to the Abdullah Shah-Ghazi shrine to honour the holy man buried there and to ask for God's blessings,
but it is also Karachi's biggest cruising ground. Every Thursday evening, as the sun sets, men from across the city
gather there. A tightly packed circle is formed and those in the centre of the circle are groped by those on the
The shrine is far from the only place in Karachi where gay sex is freely available. It is, for example, easy to buy
from a malchi walah - a masseur who offers massage and "extras" for the equivalent of £5, or $7.80.
"We get important people - police, army officers and ministers too," says one masseur, Ahmed.
He claims to have slept with more than 3,000 men during his working life - despite having two wives and eight children.
In all the months I spent hanging around the UK gay capital of Brighton during the missus's treatments I can't say
I ever saw anything remotely like that, actually I never saw any openly gay behaviour at all. Homosexuality is
common in Bangladesh too:
The report also found a large number of young male workers – migrants from the country’s villages – in homosexual
relationships, a taboo among orthodox Muslims.
Not bothered what homosexuals get up to in private but the point is that these men in Pakistan and Bangladesh are
mostly not homosexual, they are heterosexual men denied normal sex with girlfriends because of their nations' absurd
religious taboos. Wonder how many Catholic priests would have preferred sex with mature women instead of little boys
if it had been permitted?
Religion is an absurdity. Not only does it not improve human behaviour one iota but but forcing people to deny
their natural needs to avoid "sin" often pushes them into even greater ones.
This is another of those stupid news stories of the sort you get over and over.
The family of a brain injury victim are "disgusted" because the Social Security Agency
sent him a form to fill
in to assess if he was unfit to work. Why? Do they seriously expect the SCA to spend umpteen billions of taxpayers' money
by having somebody run a detailed check on every single recipient of every single bit of correspondence to see if it
is relevant and appropriate before they send it? Idiots.
Maybe we at bloggoth should get onto the papers because Vision Express sent Missus bloggoth a letter saying her eye
test is overdue, the insensitive bastards!
Sensible people across the political spectrum
Just for a bit of balance, here are articles about the threat that the UK may get involved in the Syrian war from
both the left and right wing press:
We have no particular comment on the articles, TBH we could not be arsed to read them in full, what is more
interesting is the comments by the papers' readers and the ratings they attract. Left and right wing press, the
readers are overwhelmingly
against yet another stupid intervention which will cost us more money, kill yet more innocent people, do nothing
for the people of Syria who really do want more freedom, produce a totally negative outcome for its beleaguered Christian
and Jewish minorities and hand yet more propoganda to the Islamic extremists.
Why will utter F* bastards like Camoron never pay attention to the wishes of the people in our so-called democracies?
PS: The leftist Daily Mirror
also has a poll on whether
its readers back military action against Syria. When I clicked it
84% were voting no.
3D printing allows manufacture of objects by building them
up in layers using any suitable material, such as plastic or metal. There has been much recent interest in the 3D gun.
A totally different area of technology, still in its infancy, is
stem cell therapy. Undifferentiated stem cells, which
can be extracted from urine, have the ability to transform as necessary into other cells and repair different parts of the
Presumably there are chemical factors that tell these stem cells what sort of cell they should become. If
they could isolate those and find ways to speed the transformation up you could use 3D printing technology to build up
body parts with stem cells. Expensive transplants and cosmetic surgery would be things of the past.
Missing the main point
Is it really necessary to have a
single oath to join the girl guides? I had to swear a probate form
the other day and the solicitor asked if I wanted to swear on the bible. I said it didn't mean a thing to me, so
I swore a secular version. The guides oath isn't even that important as it has no legal status, so why can't there
also be different scout/guide oaths to suit different people?
Whatever the "higher power" one likes to invoke, whether commitment to UK law or to god,
it is what one swears to uphold that matters. The bigger problem with the new version is not that it is framed
by secularists but by liberal lefties. They are dropping allegiance to my country in favour of my community.
The problem with "community" is that it can be interpreted in different ways, is it the wider community or
the narrow community of some particular creed or group?
We need to encourage committment to a unified nation by those of all ethnic bacgrounds, of any faith or
none. Anything else is just taking us back to tribalism.
Strange things update
Update 26/8/2012 approx 12.45: Going to town and there's that old chap again. It isn't
just because he "lives there", this is a 3/4+ mile stretch of rural road and he can be at any part of it,
purposefully walking. If one drove through any similar stretch at various times of various days one might keep seeing
the same person near their house/work etc but not going shopping in completely different places every time.
There is only one explanation. This "old chap" is not a real person at all but is actually a disguised
mobile speed camera set up to catch speeding motorists as they enter the town. F* government never stops spying on us!
Fuckwit Hague Again
FH and other Western leaders live in a Hollywood B Movie world; because dictators like Gaddafi and Assad are villains,
anyone who opposes them must be heroes. They do not seem to notice that the action of Islamists around the world
make both men look almost decent by contrast. Now they seem to be
dismissing any chance of the chemical attacks in Syria as not being by Assad before the UN inspectors have even got
already preparing for air strikes.
Assad may be the most likely culprit but should other possibilities be dismissed so quickly?
Let's look at some facts from reputable sources. United nations experts have
warned that unsecured arms from Libya are leaving the country at an alarming rate, falling into the hands
of terrorist groups and fuelling the conflicts in Syria, Mali and elsewhere. The OPCW
reported that Gaddafi had chemical weapons.
This was mustard gas, not the nerve agents used in Syria but, given that even this was only belatedly
revealed by the new government, how can we be so sure those did not exist in Libya too and are now being supplied by
extremist Islamic factions to other countries? How can we be sure that terrorists cannot get such nerve agents,
especially the smallish quantities used in these attacks, from elsewhere? One thing we do know for sure, those of us
not determined to inhabit a dream world of ignorance anyway, is that some Islamist groups,
as in Mali, would have no
compunction about gassing innocent people if it helped their cause and duped stupid Westerners into supplying
them with weapons.
Regardless of who did it, why the hell should the West be involved in Syria, especially when, as in Egypt and
Libya, the probably outcome will be a
deterioration in the lives of most of its citizens? When the Jewish and
Christian populations will
be largely eradicated without the protection of those nasty dictators?
And WTF are we doing given sanctuary to Muslim Brotherhood crap like
this? Moderate Islamists? Compared to some groups maybe but, when Islam is concerned, it is rarely too hard to find
a worse group than the one you are looking at. Rule by the Muslim Brotherhood will only mean removal of any real rights
from non Muslims. Unless a chance to avoid trouble by keeping very quiet, not challenging Islamic law and not expecting
any real role in society is a right, obviously.
Time we stopped with these double standards, placing such emphasis on human rights in our own country
that we hand residence to dangerous foreign criminals and yet ignoring the appalling human right records in
foreign countries we support and give foreign aid to
To the 2 real commenters among the non-existent readers of bloggoth. (And bollux to all you f* comment spammers!)
Due to yet another bloggoth malfunction I hadn't realised I had any comments recently so Apey Logies
for lack of any replies.
Update: My f* email forwarding settings were changed, who did that? - must be Al Qaeda or the conspiring
British/US governments again!
We had done a longish, typically boring, xoggoth rant with lots of dull links from the BBC, Guardian etc, so any idiotic
liberal lefties among the non-existent readership could not just dismiss it out of hand, against the stupidity of William
Hague, a politician we once had high regard for. His continual idiotic belief in this
"Arab spring" and his hints that once again, despite all the evidence that it is really an Arab winter,
especially for Christians and other minorities, that yet more British taxpayers' money will be wasted on
interventions that will only serve the Islamists shows how wrong we were, this chap's logic is even more
deficient than his hair.
For some reason this rant kept entirely freezing bloggoth (Al Quiada has hacked us!) and we could not (be arsed to)
figure out why so we will just skip to
this week's article that we would have written if we could have been arsed. The author puts it very well indeed.
From the start of the uprisings the narrative has been that the Arab world is moving towards democracy and freedom.
Even the name, reminiscent of the Prague Spring of 1968, suggested things would get better; more likely precedents
would be 1789, 1917 or the 1979 Iranian revolution, all of which led to far worse horrors.
And yet Barack Obama, David Cameron and much of the media greeted events with almost child-like innocence.
Back in February 2011 David Cameron told the Kuwaiti parliament it was "prejudice" to say that democracy would not
work in the Arab world. His statement was an example of the enfeebled western mindset, where even considering a possible
thesis that could smack of "prejudice" must be discounted before the evidence is assessed, so that we approach a problem
blinkered from any unpleasant reality.
Topic: Fuckwit Hague
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More rights bollux
As an engineer who believes we should be guided by practicality and the overall results it always amazes me that people
will start banging on about the human rights of some individual without thinking about the consequences of their
demanded changes on others.
The latest bit of human rights nonsense concerns
a woman kept in isolation for five years. Naturally, the Independent and other left of centre papers are telling us
it is symptomatic of the way we treat women in jail and talking about national failures. There are no
practical suggestions for dealing with such women. There is a
national strategy for men but not for women, which seems a fair complaint on the surface but,
given that they are much more likely to be violent, a "national strategy" for men is more necessary. There
detailed guidelines and rules for dealing with women prisoners.
What does this national strategy acheive anyway? Can't find any total figures for UK but in the US
10-20% of male prisoners are assaulted every month! Male prisons in the UK
are very violent too for young offenders.
If somebody exhibits unpredictable and violent behaviour, as the woman in that Independent article is stated to,
then what is the consequence of allowing her to mix with others except possible injury and trauma for them?
It seems highly unlikely her behaviour can be fixed with a bit of counselling, so what other solutions are there?
If she was kept on tranquilisers permanently that would have adverse health consequences and be an attack on her human
Yet again there is this emphasis on the rights of an individual and a total failure to consider that others
have rights as well.
Too many legal scams
I am rather dubious of the idea that the CPP card protection scheme was as valueless as some seem are saying.
It may be quite true that consumers are entitled to be repaid any money fraudulently taken a from credit card anyway
but negotiating with the banks to to get that money back could involve a lot of hastle and, if more than one card was
stolen and used, they would need to do the same thing for each one. CPP allowed addition of multiple cards and made
it a one phone call thing to cancel them and they would deal with all the banks involved on your behalf.
Using professionals also reduces the chance that banks will try and avoid paying by falsely claiming you were
negligent. Still, if I get back a few hundred the missus paid them, I ain't complaining.
Been sorting out the missus's estate and thought I had closed down one of her credit gards only for them
to write that a recurring payment had gone out, one of those damn extended warranty things she must have had on the last
PC or printer. These things are a complete waste of money; If it's going to go wrong, electronic equipment is either going
to be faulty out of the box or fail within the first few weeks of use due to a defective part and will be covered by
the normal warranty. If it gets beyond that it should be ok for a few years until the capacitors start to age. She knew
that and never willingly signed up for these things to my knowledge but a Google of "Product Support AG" finds
various people sold them in Curry's or PC World without being aware of it.
There are lots of other legal scams too, as
People using credit or debit cards for what are billed as special offers or signing up to discount clubs while making
a purchase have found a recurring payment coming off their card and,
until just a few weeks ago, banks would not cancel such payments. If the companies concerned would not do so there
was no solution except to close the bank account. These were not all dubious little companies either but included
some fairly well known names.
PS Another warning to non existent readers. Think your Nectar card is not important? That the worst anyone could do
would be to steal your points? Beware! Because a transaction is not immediately recorded they can steal the same points
more than once and leave you with a negative balance to pay off.
Can't say I've seen any alien spaceships, Loch Ness monsters or ghosts recently but sometimes somewhat puzzling
little things do happen.
This morning I made a coffee using what should have been a clean mug from the dishwasher,
got near the bottom and felt an object in my mouth. Looked in the mug and it had loads of green peas in it. Just a
problem due to #1 son's sloppy packing, not scraping things properly and putting mugs in the wrong way up I thought.
The wierd bit was, I chucked the contents in the sink, with the plug in, and there was nothing there!
Another strange thing is, over and over again, when I drive to or from the local town, I keep
seeing this same old chap walking along the road. It is all sorts of different places on route so he isn't just hanging
around his house and it isn't that our routines coincide, my trips to town, about twice a week, are on
various days and at any time of the day. It is definitely him as he is very distinctive, has a stick and, whatever the
weather, always wears a flat woolly Compo-style cap and a big woolly jacket that gives his body a roundness not matched
by his face. I am not imagining him as I have images on my car safety camera. Surely he can't spend his whole day walking
to and from the supermarket but I can't see what else explains it.
Lots of stuff in the news about abuse and London gangs (ahem) taunting each other on ask.fm. Online bullying leading
to suicide is puzzling to most adults, if you don't like what is said why not stop visiting the site? Such regular
news item are only 2nd in incomprehensibility to those about immensely fat people being removed from their beds; who
the f* has kept on feeding them so much once they could no longer work or care for themselves?
What exactly is ask.fm?
Signed up under the usual false name we reserve for bollux/dodgy things (not that sort of dodgy things!) just to find
out. There is a list of questions and you can type the answer or upload a video recording of your answer. The questions
include fascinating stuff like "Do you prefer tea or coffee?" Do they think I am going to truthfully answer
that personal question and get lots of abuse from people who like tea, leading to my eventual suicide? No thanks.
What a load of old balls some of these things are! We can understand the value of some online forums because you can
get all sorts of useful help on things, technical, legal etc that you can't get for free elsewhere or have some
interesting discussions on whatever interests you, like hobbies or politics. But what is the point of all
the trivia that you can find on Twitter or ask.fm? If I want chat like that I can always wander up to the village club
where it comes with some real human company (and vodka).
PS: Clicked Home and there's a set of photos under "See who's here" and they mostly appear to be young
teenage girls with a scattering of small boys. Hmmm. Maybe there is a reason some like to visit it. Not me officer,
I was just curious, erm, about what beverages people like to drink I mean.
What a load of crap xoggoth! Why don't you go and kill yourself?
The way back
After a major loss, how do you get a life back?
On the positive side, some would say, without the relaxed company we
most enjoyed, we are doing more of the things that other people call normal, getting out more and socialising, going to
the club, running with a local group of tasty young ladies, drinking with neighbours and seeing old friends. We do
some volunteer things (come to think of it, there was a rather nice widow at the last footpath repair thing we went to)
and have various other expansions of our social life planned, like joining the local wildlife society or local history
society where we already know a few people.
Unfortunately, those are not the things we value the most. We want our imagination back, we want to write more
wierd stories and boost our Kindle income from $3 per annum to $5 per annum, to post bollux or stupid cartoons here
that nobody reads instead of dull Daily Mail type rants that nobody reads, to get into some real painting again before
all our expensive acrylics go hard, to have our 35th unsuccessful attempt at mastering the guitar, to sketch and
Instead, most days, we just have a J Arthur, get up, flip through the news on TV, flip through the news on the PC,
spend hours doing paperwork (illness and death are bureaucratic nightmares) or pointless decorating jobs round the house
and go for a jog before heading up to the village club or just staying at home and watching the Simpsons or messing about
on the PC.
Where do things like imagination and interest in life go? Are they hidden somewhere waiting for a magic
trigger to release them again? If I shot Ed Balls would that work? Worth a try.
Is the solution counselling or therapy? It looks like bollux to us. We don't need some sympathetic stranger guiding us
to "ways forward". We at bloggoth are a genius and we know the ways forward, the problem is feeling f*
interested in life enough to actually pursue them. Another family member, for different reasons, is having some
counselling, so we may see what he (another bright chap naturally) thinks.
Or are there simpler methods that don't involve annoying people? A film we keep meaning to watch is The Beaver. Mel
Gibson plays a depressed character who communicates through a puppet and we can relate to that. The regular non-existent
readers of bloggoth will already be familiar with Mr P, our puppet parrot, who is our best friend and a major contributor
to this blog. We don't know why, but Mr P knows everything and is very, very wise despite his huge vodka consumption.
Who is better placed to help we at bloggoth out of our mental rut than Mr P?
Yeh! And I only charge £200 per hour!
Democracy is about much more than getting the most votes in an election
Whether shooting lots of Muslim Brotherhood supporters is helping the situation in Egypt (given that they can't
shoot them all) I am not so sure, but removing Morsi was the only solution to protect democracy. The MB, and some
of the deluded here, are screaming that removing him from leadership was undemocratic, since he was elected by the
This is pure nonsense, there is much more to democracy than having elections every few years. They have
elections in Iran, Pakistan and the Maldives too but how are those democracies when any who are not the right brand
of Muslim are excluded from any say or influence in the way society works? When there is no freedom, by the press nor
of non-Muslim citizens, to express alternative views? If others are excluded from all but the lowest ranks of government
and are not free to persuade public opinion then how can any election be true and fair? When
Islamism takes over, real freedom and democracy die as they are
doing in Turkey.
Democracy does not end when the polls close either. While they are expected to pursue the general political direction
and the policies on which they are elected, no democratic government can completely ignore the wishes of those of
other views who also contribute and pay their taxes. This week's article that we at bloggoth would have written if
we could be arsed is
this one in the BBC:
In Western democracies our governments are aware that many people, perhaps even a majority, did not vote for them,
and that they must therefore make themselves acceptable to their opponents.
Look at the pronouncements of the recently elected and recently deposed President Morsi of Egypt, however,
and you will find little or nothing to suggest that he is aware that there are Egyptians who disagree with him and
whose consent must be constantly solicited. It is impossible to discern from his speeches that there is a substantial
minority of Egyptian citizens who are Christians, others who are atheists, others who, while following the Muslim way
of life, would rather it did not make a show of itself as the state religion.
His view of elections is that they grant an absolute right to impose the ruling party's agenda, and that opponents
have lost all right to an agenda of their own. And the response of the army is to say, not so - the only ones with a
right to impose their agenda are we, who represent the interests of all Egyptians and not just those of the Muslim
Brotherhood. The fact that we have to kill quite a few Egyptians to prove that we represent them is just one of those
In our own system the opposition is a legitimate part of the legislative process. Laws are seldom steam-rollered
through Parliament without regard for disagreement, and the general assumption is that the final result will be a
compromise, an attempt to reconcile the many conflicting interests
Mr Kholy compared the one-year rule of Mr Morsi to the Islamist takeover of the Iranian state after the 1979 revolution
and said that, like Nazism, the Muslim Brotherhood ideology sought to dominate Egyptian society.
Morsi was elected president and held office for one year but in that time he tried to make everything Muslim Brotherhood
controlled. Egyptian culture over 5,000 years is a mix of religions and civilisations in which the Islamic religion is
one ingredient of the Egyptian character, he said. The Muslim Brotherhood are like a Nazi group that demand that
everything changes to their way.
To we at bloggoth, and to most of us who were youths in the 60s, Britain appears to be going backwards sexually
into the religious dark ages. We have mentioned before the strange prudish behaviour of many younger men in the changing
rooms at the gym. While us old farts wander to the shower with our saggy old bits on display and think nothing of it,
many younger men take great effort to conceal their goodies, fiddling around under towels almost as if they were on a
public beach. No, they don't all seem to be Muslims, Polish etc.
Then there seems to be a big clampdown on dogging. Just as well we are retired and don't need to go running in the
evening as the car parks at two of our favourite jogging spots now close at 5.30 and there are big metal gates following complaints
about sexual activities. Where is the logic in that? Joggers or dog walkers who stopped going to these places in the
evening because they were offended by the goings-on now can't go even if they wanted to. Who cares what people get up to
after dark? If you don't want to see it, don't look in the car window. Simples.
Now, following on from a furore about The Sun's page 3, there is the current nonsense about ′Lads' Mags′
on display at major stores. It beats we at bloggoth why people buy
Nuts and similar magazines, they are as boring as hell. What is the point, sexually, of a mag with a few pictures of
women in skimpy bikinis when anyone wanting a wank can go to xnxx.com and see proper close-up free videos of a lady
getting it up the arse? Still, in what way are they harmful even to children? Nothing they can't see on any beach
and, as on the beach, they won't be remotely interested.
How does perfectly normal sexual interest encourage contempt of women? Maybe those who think it does should have a look
at the attitudes to women, their exclusion from society and the extraordinarily high levels of rape and domestic abuse
in Muslim or third world Christian countries like Bangladesh or Uganda where pornography, or even images as mild as
those in our lad's mags, would be totally illegal. Maybe they should look too at the levels of child abuse, including
of young boys, in these same countries where normal outlets are not available. It puts the furore over Jimmy Saville
here into perspective.
Men, women too, are interested in sex. Trying to suppress these natural urges totally is ridiculous and increases
rather than reduces the rate of rape and the tendency to see women as sexual objects. The west seems to have it about
right, reasonable sexual freedom with an emphasis on the right of women to make their own decisions, including those
ladies who are very happy to accept large fees for partially displaying their assets in magazines.
Sexual harassment is common place in garment factories and women are threatened with dismissal if they speak out. Uganda Violence against women is endemic throughout Uganda.
We at bloggoth are totally in favour of every sort of equality, race, sex, religion, disability, sexual
orientation, WHO, just as long as equality means what it should do, that everyone has an equal chance of reaping the
rewards of the abilities they have and the effort they put into society. Real equality should not be about
The state should not be following, encouraging or enforcing quotas for minority employment that completely ignore
the low educational acheivements of some ethnic groups.
If they expect the same pay and progress, women should be available for the same hours as their male colleagues, not
expect additional flexibility or time off for childcare.
If they expect the same pay and progress, the religious should do the same job as others, not expect time
off for prayers or other special provisions to accord with their sensitivities.
Disability is something that can potentially affect any one of us and which we should all be sympathetic about
but the cost of such sympathy is something that should be shared equally among all taxpayers, not fall upon individuals
like colleagues or small business owners.
Why not? The majority of illegal immigrants are not white.
The number of illegals from places like Australia or Canada is negligible and there are relatively few from white
countries like Russia or the non-EU Eastern European nations. For the very obvious reasons, that they are
trying to get away from poverty, repression or conflict and because we already
have so many immigrants from these areas that they can find a home away from home, the majority of illegals
are from Africa and South Asia.
What is the f* point of wasting time questioning little old white ladies in the interests of equality when the great
majority of illegals are going to be black, Asian or Oriental in appearance? It really is time we started applying a bit
of logic to this issue. Yes, the police need to be careful not to unecessarily offend those legally here by
treating them from the outset as if they are illegal (attitude is something the police have a major problem with in our
experience) but "racial profiling" on this issue is only acting on facts.
Enforcing laws impartially, based on real evidence, is never racist. On the contrary, making exceptions solely because
of colour is the true racism.
Of the 1,950 number of people held in detention on 25 December 2004, some 39 per cent were from African countries,
28 per cent were from Asia, 15 per cent from Europe, 11 per cent from the Americas and seven per cent from the
Before he became a minister in the coalition we thought Vince Cable seemed a sensible
sort but, with every pronouncement since, he has been showing how wrong that impression was. Like so many on the
liberal left this man is purely ignorant and facts do not seem to penetrate his consciousness. Fair enough for an
ordinary citizen maybe but, in a senior minister, it is unforgivable. If this was a government rather than a coalition
where they have to take account of the ludicrous Liberal Democrats this man would be sacked for shear stupidity.
In his latest drivelling comments
he has condemned the government′s latest campaign to tackle ilegal immigration, saying it is not a big
problem. Is it TOO FUCKING MUCH for you to check
the figures from the Home Office documents Cable??? The latest estimates, from the London School of Economics, put
the central estimate of illegal migrants at 618,000, with a maximum of 863,000. That′s up to 1.4% of our
population that has no right whatever to be here. If these migrants were spread evenly, about one person on many
ordinary streets, villages or blocks of flats would be an illegal.
In practice, the situation is much worse because they are concentrated in certain areas and have an enormous impact
on others who live there. Has he read about the Romanian shanty towns
in London or
the Romanian beggars in central London? What does he think they are costing our tourist trade?
Is he aware of the huge problem of
beds in sheds in parts of London like Southall?. This is not unusual, you can routinely find similar stories in other
parts of the UK with high immigrant populations such as
Even in rural and largely white areas, like my own home town or
in Dorset, ethnically-owned shops, takeaways and restaurants employ illegal workers.
In the TV program UK Border Force they sometimes find illegals in every single one they visit.
Why should the government not have an initiative to tackle what is a serious crime and a very major problem for the
UK when they have very similar initiatives to tackle other problems like unlicenced vehicles, drink driving and even
the rather minor one of watching TV without a licence? Are TV licence dodgers able to regularise their position
with a text message? Why all this nonsense about amnesties? Should people who have got away without taxing their vehicles
for three years be told they are now free to drive their untaxed cars without penalty? And should we be so
concerned about the feelings of legal migrants when they are overwhelmingly the ones who are breaking the law by aiding
these illegals - smuggling them in, housing them, employing them, hiding them, supplying phoney documents,
taking part in fake marriages, helping them cheat on English exams etc?
Just why the hell should criminals get away with things or be treated leniently just becaúse they are not of white
British origin? That's not anti racism Cable, that′s inverted racism.
As for his blithering comments on the value of overseas students, maybe he cannot be arsed to check
some other Home Office documents.
Between 44% and 51% of such "students" from places like Nigeria, Pakistan and India do not return to their
homelands when their courses finish. Even when the courses actually exist, student visas are
a major route for illegal immigration.
Move the CCTV!
Real international news! No, not some routine Muslim atrocity, another bollux comment from Obummer, a tasteless
joke about some plane/train/coach crash/fire in the third world etc (gumph!), this is a proper bit of international
news of the sort you only get in the brilliant "The Sun". A female runner
has been repeatedly defecating in somebody's backyard in New Mexico.
Reporting such a trivial thing to the press? How wierd can you get? If it had been we at bloggoth we would have
said nothing, just installed a hidden high resolution camera at just the right place in front of that bin and hoped she
kept on coming!
Well done chaps!
Given his obviously violent nature and physical strength there is no reason to think that
any force used to restrain him was unjustified but we at bloggoth do not really care if it was or not. In common with
most sane BRITISH people we would say
well done prison officers! you deserve a pay rise.
It's a pity the necessary use of approved restraint techniques could not somehow result in Adebolajo having
his eyeballs poked out and his bollox cut off.
What do other misfits do when they unexpectedly find themselves alone? Let's think:
We could turn into one of those wierd old chaps who just sits alone in a corner of the pub every night and mutters to
We could drink ourselves to death. Naturally, the vodka would have to be very cheap.
We could go off backbacking around the world and see the places we always wanted to see. The bro. has offered
us use of his camper van in the US although we would prefer a canoe on the Amazon.
We could buy ourselves a Russian wife like an inlaw did. Mind you, he was about ten years younger so probably
had a more active libido and the cost was probably more worth it. Not that interested that often anymore so we would
want something much cheaper. It seem the country with the lowest GDP per capita is the Democratic
(hah! hah!) Republic of Congo. Maybe we could get a DCR wife at the pound shop. If she wasn't up to much we could
always eat her. That's fairly normal in the DCR.
We could go out in style and gain the gratitude of the world by taking a few ghastly people
with us. We are a chemical engineer, so constructing some suitable explosive devices should be easy enough. Although we
can never remember peoples' names we remember technical stuff. In a conversation about how #1 son's E cigarette
worked the other night we remembered that the latent heat of water was 2260 kJ/kg. The explosives are the easy part,
it's getting the right bastards that is difficult. The problem with most terrorism
is the indiscriminate nature of the attacks, targetting whole groups usually kills some nice people too.
We would want to be more selective and take out specific bastard individuals. Let's see, how could we organise a phoney
event that would bring together Tony Blair, Gordon Bown, Ed Balls, The Prince of Daftness, Anjem Choudary and a
few thousand like him, Cliff Richard, Bob Crow and other crappy public sector union leaders but nobody else?
We are plotting.
Not that anyone will notice. bloggoth will be dead for a while. Why? We are not a celebrity, politician,
a cute little kid or Stephen F* Lawrence, so who cares?
At long last
We do sometimes get some sense from this government and forcing
visitors from countries like India, Pakistan and Nigeria to pay a £3000 bond to discourage them from overstaying their
visas is one bit. The problem with visitors from these three countries in particular has been known to our government for
at least 6 years and tackling it is well overdue. The tables in
this Home Office report regarding overstaying by students admitted on three year visas in 2004 shows that those
from these three nations were by far the worst offenders. Figures for the 2004 cohort who were still in the UK in 2009
are: Nigeria 51%, Pakistan 48% and India 44%. The next worst, China, is way down at 24%.
Maybe those countries will retaliate as the critics say but, as far as India is concerned, they would probably
think twice as they would only be damaging their own tourist industry. In any case, a bond is repayable to those who
return as the vast majority of tourists do. As for Pakistan and Nigeria, what real British person
in their right mind would go to either at present? Immigration groups are crying discrimination
because this measure will not apply to applicants from white Commonwealth nations but it is simply about facts;
not suprisingly, given that their own countries are not poverty stricken, backward and violent places,
Australia, New Zealand etc don't appear on the list at all.
The usual suspects will always think up ways to try and prevent the UK having effective immigration controls and,
rather than listen to their garbage, it is more relevant to look at reality. A similar bond system has been in use in
Australia since the early 90s and
works pretty well.
And just to counter the nonsense of this being a "right wing measure" the proposal has come from
The birdies go tweet, tweet, tweet
Not sure why this song popped into my head during my annual shower but it's great. Many versions but it's
got to be Nat vs Ella. Or click both and have a duet! PS No we are not THAT old!
More suppression of the truth - part XXX
No idea about Pamela Geller but what better illustration of the supression of TRUTH is there than
attempts to exclude Robert Spencer from the UK?.
Spencer is behind Jihad Watch to which we link at left and, as with the others there, there is none of that
counter-productive "Peedophile Prophet" or "Religion of Piss" stuff that some lesser known bloggers
go in for. More importantly, none of those assertions that all Muslims are closet extremists, or anything else that
we can see, that might deliberately encourage attacks on ordinary people.
What Jihad Watch does do is report the realities as accurately as any other media outlet, whether it's the text
from the Quran that supports the irrational and frequently repulsive dogma of this political creed or, more importantly,
the truth of what Islamists are actually doing to others throughout the world. Almost every article on Jihad Watch
is about some specific news item with links to sources in the mainstream press. If somebody is making this
stuff up, it certainly isn't Spencer, he is simply drawing the obvious and logical conclusions about Islam's nature
from the appalling things that it is doing, day in and day out, and in so many parts of the world. Others
do terrible things in the name of their beliefs too but only Islam does them with such frequency, only Islam
has such an international consistency in the nature of the crimes committed in its name.
Children are often casualties of conflict and may be deliberately killed when hatred of a supposed enemy
reaches sufficient pitch but what other group today, except Islamists, cold bloodedly targets
children for supposed insults or not following the correct line as in this week's cases,
here? These are not isolated events as
this list indicates; Israel, Iraq or Afghanistan
are the sites of most terrorist incidents targetting children over the last ten years.
There are minorities elsewhere in the world who are marginalised or who live in fear but where can you find
such consistent hatred of others for the same reason in a number of nations, apart from that of non-Muslims in
Islamic countries? See this previous thread for links.
This castigation of those who collate and accurately report on the realities without indulging in
inflamatory rhetoric against ordinary Muslims is ludicrous. Humanity being what it is, any negative comment whatever
on a group may occasionally result in undesirable consequences but in the tolerant UK that is usually no more than
a glare at a woman in a Niqab, an occasional racist epithet or a rant on Twitter. To avoid that possibility should
we really be turning a blind eye to marginalisation and violence against millions worldwide? When attacks on Muslim
have gone further than that, like the recent burning of some mosques and Islamic centres, it is the action of Muslims,
not comments by bloggers or rallies by the EDL, that have triggered them. They, and the ones who have radicalised and
inflamed them, are the ones that need to be arrested, excluded or expelled from the UK, not people like Spencer.
PS. Here we go Robert, this is the acceptable way to say things if you want to be let into the UK to discuss
the wonders of diversity at WI meetings.
The new Arsebishop of Canterbury is to visit
the Middle east and has blandly commented on "the pressures on its Christian communities". Excellent,
gives the impression that they are facing difficulties due to inflation, shortage of toilet paper, stuff like that.
The Lord Arsebishopness would never think of saying that Christianity in the Middle East is
being wiped out by Islam:
The lion’s share of persecution faced by Christians arises in countries where Islam is the dominant faith, the
report says, quoting estimates that between a half and two-thirds of Christians in the Middle East have left
the region or been killed in the past century.
There is now a serious risk that Christianity will disappear from its biblical heartlands, it claims.
The report shows that Muslim-majority states make up 12 of the 20 countries judged to be unfree on the grounds
of religious tolerance by Freedom House, the human rights think tank.
We at bloggoth have only ever bothered with one online forum and rarely bother with that these days. There are a few
exceptions but, for the most part, people will not be persuaded from their own beliefs and it does not matter one iota
what references you cite or how reputable or unbiased the sources are. Most people are irrational and rational argument
is mostly a waste of time. You can post a whole list of links that show the realities of any topic and it's a bit like
throwing a pebble into a stream, the argument just flows around them. One thing that almost guarantees that nobody
will respond to a post is a link to sound facts, they prefer to carry on the "argument" with those whose
opinions are as fact-free as their own.
This youtube video illustrates just how pointless facts
and realities are in forming opinions. A number of people who believed they were skilled at dowsing were
asked to employ their skills to detect which one of five barrels had water in. Not surprisingly, none performed any
better than one would expect from random chance. What was rather more surprising is that this did not cause any of
them to doubt their dowsing skills. There is nothing unusual about these individuals, whether it's belief in dowsing,
Ouija boards, seances, wierd cures, fake gadgets or whatever, even people who are sincere and highly intelligent
will fool themselves. If a belief in something as simple and unimportant
as dowsing cannot by shaken by proof that it does not work what chance is there of convincing people that their views
on religion or political ideology may be equally flawed?
We tell ourselves that the rational approach to any disagreement with others should be reasoned debate but what is
rational about wasting one's time? Maybe the truly rational approach is to get a gun and shoot 'em.