The coven:
13 blogs we may look at when not lost in admiration of our own:

Bad Science
HMRC is shite
News Bleat
Nobody′s Friend
the freethinker
mad ramblings
National Secular Society
Vacant slot
Vacant slot
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Islam totally sucks links:
Gates Of Vienna
Jihad Watch
Last commenty thing that we could be bothered to create. (Lazy old git)
Links to items
More disdain of democracy and the working man by the left

Why are the left so fucking illogical?

And why is blanket hatred of some groups ok?

Every generation blames the one before

Out of the frying pan...

Narrow Minded Youth


Why do the left so hate democracy?

Silly Scottish cow

This Silly Seacole Stuff

The Next President


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The ramblings of an old git

bloggoth Mission Statement:

          We aim to never raise our sights above the gutter and preferably to stay much lower

Would you?

Went for my usual wander today. The footpath went through a field with several young bulls with very sharp horns. Hesitated a bit, I must admit, but then thought, nah!, If they were aggressive, the farmer wouldn't put them in a field with a public footpath through it. Well, they weren't aggressive but they were either curious or friendly. Four of them came right over to me and followed me all the way across the field.

Animals like xoggoth cos he's nice to them. Someday I would like to go to Africa and wander across the Serengeti at night, Hello little lions!

Those double standards again

A producer is applauded for his "furious and ironic response" when a resident complained that a Sevenoaks’ panto was ‘too black’. Of course when a black actor claims that Game of Thrones is 'too white' that's fine.

Eeeeeeeeh fookin' 'ell...

Liife gets bloody annoying. Spent nearly £9000 on a new central heating system, installation finished last Friday. Seemed dodgy last night but got it going eventually, thought I might have just had the RF controller too close to the TV, but today it's not working at all. The installer came round but couldn't fix it, the fault is in the boiler unit. Hopefully the manufacturers are sending somebody on Friday and I might get some heat. Not related to the fault, but it would seem we have a tank full of the wrong fuel, got to get that drained and refilled. Aaaaaaaaaaaaagh!

Oh well, going on holiday to Spain next Wednesday. I expect the plane will crash immediately after take off. At the moment, I'm not sure I'd mind.

PS Apparently I could use the old fuel oil in my van as it's basically diesel. Just that, as it was for domestic use, I never had to pay tax on it. Wahee! Cheeting the stinking government out of their "due". Less money to pay for f* foreign aid, f* EU contributions, f* welfare for non-citizens, f* health tourists, f* "expenses" for MPs that nobody else can claim in similar circumstances, f* cost of the House of Lords, etc etc. Citizens of Britain! It is your MORAL DUTY to evade tax!

PPS Look at this tax evading CUNT, Prince Charles Much fuss about Amazon and Google not paying enough tax in the UK but at least they do help the UK economy with their sales platforms. Even us republicans have to conceed that some other members of the royal family do a lot for Britain's image but nobody likes the Prince of daftness (or his ghastly brother). What does this privileged, interfering arsehole do for the UK? Time for BEHEADING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big bugs have little bugs...

Maybe it goes the other way too, big bugs are feeding on larger bugs etc. If there is a god who created us all, maybe he was just one of many like him who was created by an even more powerful god, and that more powerful god was among the many created by an even more powerful god... and so ad infinitum.

Or perhaps gods evolve over time, just like life on earth does. Maybe our god was pretty primitive, just a caveman as gods go. The next god may be more intelligent and have the technology to to make a better job of things. In the future, the Steve Jobs of gods is going to create life in a far more sophisticated way. He may allow us, in return for more prayers or something, the opportunity to pick and choose what sort of bodies we can have. Huge brain, huge muscles, huge knob or whatever else appeals to you.

Do something useful you little sods!

Aside from eating them, mankind has always made use of animals - horses/elephants/camels as transport, sheep and silkworms for fabrics, bees for honey, pigeons to carry messages, leeches for microsurgery, etc.

Got around to treating all my wooden garden furniture this year. Painted it with teak oil anyway, couldn't be arsed to spend ages treating and sanding the surfaces to bring the original colour back. In autumn I always see wasps nibbling at the surfaces so can't we get them to do the job in return for a plastic nest or a jar of jam?

Philosophy is crap

Had an odd experience the other night. Woke up at about 4AM and was trying to get back to sleep when I heard the doorbell. Looked out the window, saw nobody and was just about to go back to bed when I heard my son shouting "Dad!!". Went downstairs, checked front and back doors and nobody there. That wasn't quite the end of it, just going back to bed when I heard a thump on the back door. Nobody there again. Son came back about 7AM as usual and he'd been at work all night so I obviously dreamed the whole thing. But it was just as real as reality, so how do you tell the difference? Mention things like this to anyone and most people will recall some similar odd experience.

When the difference between imagination and reality can be so blurred on occasions what sense does it make trying to look for meaning in life? Was asked if I wanted to go to a philosophy class. No way. Philosophy is just as pointless and futile as religion. It's all just a lot of conjecture. Whatever you believe, there are others out there, as educated and bright as you are, who are equally convinced of something totally different and their arguments are no less "logical" than yours. Humanity should stop wasting its time on this crap and just go with realities.

Or what appears to be real - it really makes no F* difference.

How do you get it back?

Lost our imagination, as is totally obvious from this blog recently. At one time the stream of total bollux on here used to flow like the river Tiber, now there's just a rare drip.

Ah well, at least we don't (yet) have the physical problems that our ageing friends and acquaintances have. One lady (the one that resembles the crazy cat lady from the Simpsons) has to go to Brighton hospital for tests tomorrow. Know it well, spent a lot of time going there with the missus for her radiation therapy and chemotherapy, fat lot of good they did. Another old male acquaintance I was talking to today has been to hospital twice this week.

Naughty/rude bits involved in both cases, as with the missus. It's usually the embarassing bits - colon, testicles, prostate, breasts, womb, uterus, ovaries, cervix, etc. that get ill. Why is it we never get cancer, or any other disease, in our elbows or ear lobes? In my opinion we should have eggs/sperm extracted from us at birth and then used, as in Huxley's Brave New World, to create humans as required in test tubes. Then we could have have all the reproductive stuff removed, greatly reducing the risks of cancer and helping us live longer.

Hmmm. On the other hand, without any bonking, probably the best thing in life (after raspberries and cream, once you get to my age), would we want to live longer?

Life on Mars

News items about the possibility of life being found on other planets, within or outside our own solar system, crop up fairly frequently. Nothing has definitely been found as yet but it's bound to happen in the next decade according to NASA's top scientists. Hopefully it will not be intelligent life capable of coming here, we have enough problems with people from elsewhere on our own planet at the moment. We don't want giant transparent centipedes claiming asylum and helping themselves to our welfare and social housing thanks very much.

Can't say we are that interested in astronomy, we prefer things a bit nearer, like the nice little bugs in our garden but we suppose there could be some aspects of alien life that could be interesting. NASA scientists discover new galaxy that is actually a huge alien lady's bottom. Mmmm.

Things change

We always read the crime news and one thing that stands out in the last few years is a rise in Asian crime in the South East. It was a different story in the Midlands but they used to be pretty law abiding down this way, noticeably more law abiding than white Brits it appeared, but that does not seem to be the case now. Our "racist" observation is quite correct according to this 2014 report from the lefty Guardian:

Scotland Yard is to set up a specialist team to deal with soaring crime in London's south Asian communities,
The number of south Asian murder victims has almost quadrupled in the past decade from 10 in 1993 to 38 last year, compared with a 32% rise for the general population, while the kidnap rate has more than doubled from 90 to 228 from 1998 to 2003, accounting for 20% of the Met's total kidnap figure last year and racking up 114 kidnaps so far this year.
Drug crime in Asian communities has increased 41% in the past five years, compared with the overall figure of 37% for London. Pakistan is the source of 27% of the heroin found in London, with a rising number of Asian addicts and associated crime, and Tower Hamlets, one of the Asian crime hotspots, dubbed the UK's heroin capital.

As you'd expect from The Guardian "lack of jobs and educational opportunities, community deprivation" is quoted as a factor, implying we are to blame, but look at the two crimes mentioned, kidnapping and drug dealing. They are both linked to what goes on in these South Asian countries. Pakistan is one of the world's 5 most dangerous countries for kidnapping and ransom. Pakistan is also the most heroin addicted country in the world. Drug use is rising alarmingly among the young in Bangladesh too.

If we take in people from nations with significant problems they bring those problems in with them. If they retain more of a bond with those nations than they do with their adopted one, the problems won't stop coming when most are born here. If we take in people who won't integrate and become part of our own society they are never going to succeed in it.

Maybe one day we will learn from realities instead of blaming ourselves for everything.

Got me worried

When you operate a website, even for a very small business, you get used to comment spammers. Occasionally, as with this blog, you get a lot of totally pointless generic comments, usually from somewhere like Russia, Ukraine etc, that have nothing whatever to do with anything on the site. They don't have any links to dodgy sites or contain any software with viruses etc so I really have no idea what purpose they serve.

Just recently have been getting empty comments from my business website with my own email address. Darn it! I know I have been a bit loopy over the last few years but have I unconsciously started to contact myself?

Hang on, the door bell is ringing! Might be me.


I actually feel ok today. First time in weeks I have not been downer than an extremely down thing at the bottom of down there. Who knows, may actually get back to blogging summit.



All in favour of sexual freedom, what people choose to do with their arses is up to them. The big butt, I mean but, is, as with any risky activity, adults should bear the consequences of their own actions.

It is entirely wrong in principle that uninfected men should be able to get pills costing £400 a month so they can continue having unprotected sex with other men while pensioners can't even get cataract operations until they are almost blind. The latter makes no sense as, if they cannot do things for themselves, they will be more of a burden on the state and others.

These men could just buy some condoms and if they can't be bothered that's their problem. Men involved in risky bum sex, migrants trying to cross the Med or channel in unsafe boats or whatever. As adults you are responsible for your own decisions. If it goes wrong, don't expect the rest of us to pick up the bill or waste our time and resources to help you.

Stop this waste of money too

The government has rejected the idea of removing the triple lock on state pensions.

As an old fart I should support handing out money to us old farts but I don't. There is no very good reason for the triple lock pension scheme. Those who have paid for their pensions with lots of tax and NI throughout their working lives should certainly have their pensions protected from inflation but there is no justification to keep raising it in real terms. Same with the winter fuel allowance, why hand that out to well off sorts?

These schemes were just bribes to get the older section of the population to vote Tory. Not the way democracy should work.

Well done US

Interesting news here on US oil production from shale.

Opec's worst fears are coming true. Twenty months after Saudi Arabia took the fateful decision to flood world markets with oil, it has still failed to break the back of the US shale industry.
North America's hydraulic frackers are cutting costs so fast that most can now produce at prices far below levels needed to fund the Saudi welfare state and its military machine, or to cover Opec budget deficits.

Doubt it will happen but bankrupting that F* awful country with their disgusting, backward strict Islamist laws and their continual undermining of Western democracy by financing the spread of Salafist claptrap can only be good. If we don't depend on them so much we can stop pretending that this very worst of all Islamist states is our friend and ally.

PS Hopefully we can ignore the "green", AKA ignorant lefty twats, and get fracking going round here too.


Losing things

Went for a walk with my nice loony religious lady recently looking for the cardigan she lost while walking the day before. Found it fortunately. She lost a jumper the previous time we went walking together near there too. Last week I lost a pair of pliers when I went to help my son after a collision with a fox damaged the sump shield on his car. Poor little foxy was dead unfortunately.

When you get older you seem to be constantly losing things, especially if you walk a lot. In the past year I have lost a compass, the spare batteries for my GPS tracker, a pair of sunglasses, the case for another pair of sunglasses, a pedometer, a couple of maps, two pairs of reading glasses, a case for some other reading glasses and a camera. When doing jobs round the house or garden I must spend 90% of the time looking for tools or materials I have absent-mindedly put down somewhere.

Ah well. There is a plus side to everything! Haven't had a search team callout in my area for some time but all the ones I have been on have involved screwed up younger people and dozens of us spent hours looking for them. It will be a lot easier if we have to go out looking for some old fart like me.


Could this be the trigger?

Yet another severe attack in France.

We don't have much info yet, it could just be some deranged non Muslim loony, but, if it turns out to be yet another Islamist attack, will it trigger the severe reaction that a French intelligence chief has warned of?. The French have seen too many serious Islamist attacks since 2013 and I do not know how much longer some will put up with it.

Of course people will say, and quite rightly, that the majority of Muslims in France will not be supporters of these actions but, when we fought the Germans, did we think about the many Germans who did not follow Hitler's extreme views? When a threat springs from a particular group, when we cannot readily distinguish those who threaten us from others in the group, when too many innocent members of that group see the reporting of the real offenders as a betrayal, when the threat grows to such an extent that our whole society and safety of our citizens is threatened then there is no other logical action but to act against that group as a whole.

There comes a point when you have to forget all the subleties, the distinguishing of the innocent individuals and make the logical decision to defend yourself against an enemy .



The solution to all things for us OCD sorts is LISTS! We used to laugh at the missus for making lists of everything she planned to do with her day but now realise how wise she was. We now keep lists of everything, how long we go walking for and what footpath map was applicable (yes we have books of printouts of footpath areas, all numbered in order from North West to South East) , how many of each exercise we have done in our little garage gym, all the things we plan to do each day.

When you are totally F* disinterested in doing anything at all, working your way through a boring list at least keeps you from staying in bed all day.

A new friend

People think we are barmy for sharing our meals and vodka with a little puppet parrot but this week we took a small step towards normality, we have a new friend - a Wood Pidgeon! It's a living thing at least!

It is an odd colour, most wood pidgeons are gray but this one is light brown although it must be the same species as it gets attention from other randy Wood Pidgeons. Poor bird has a few problems. It does not appear able to fly properly, although it can just about get onto a fence to keep itself out of danger. Also it seems to sit dozing in the sun a lot with its feathers all fluffed up making it seem very fat. But it's the behaviour that is really odd. The first day I saw it, it was waddling down the path. Then it stopped and looked at me and came flying over and perched on the trellis right next to my seat. Put down a bit of seed and it was wandering around right under my feet, not afraid of me at all.

Now it turns up at about 5pm every day and sits with me listening to my wisdom. And eating any food I give it of course, but it's a lot cheaper than the whisky I have to provide for my drinky neighbour.

Natural art

This looks like a piece of artwork or a computer generated image but actually it is just an untouched, accurate photo of a stream.

In some areas of the forests round here the streams have a very high iron content. The downside is that they contain very little life, you never see anything moving in them, not even insects. The plus side is this very red colour and when the bright sun manages to make it through the trees and hits the surface this is what you see.


Must stop ranting so much! How does it help? Want to go back to days when bloggoth was almost all bollox. Was happier then. So from now on must mark rants and keep to minimum. Starting now we shall mark all our rants, and hopefully, by making them stand out, do a few less.


The F* French. Is it just we at bloggoth who loath them?

Other enemies come and go and a few decades after its all blown over we like them again. How many in the UK still hate the Germans or the Japanese? But the F* French!

Of course we are more likely to have problems with our nearest neighbours because their proximity necessarily creates conflicts of interest, when did you ever hear of a war between Australian Aborigines and Eskimos? It isn't always the case of course but bound to happen if the people in your neighbouring country are F* self centred, socialist, striking wankers like the French!

PS They have just lost 1 nil to Portugal in the Euro 2016 final. Hurrah for Portugal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Those wonderful wise youngsters

Much has been made of statistics relating to the EU referendum result. Bremainers were mostly educated young people while Brexiters were mostly uneducated old people.

Technically that's correct, if you define education in the very narrow sense as having a college or university qualification. The reality is that, thanks to the leftist agenda which sees higher education as yet another human right, far more people go into it than used to be the case even though, for so many, it does nothing at all for their career prospects. Maybe a degree in history or economics has some relevance but how exactly does a 3 year course in Media Studies or Architecture or Computer Science make you more able to judge the future direction of Europe?

It is the older people who are more qualified to make these judgements because they are more educated in ways that matters. They may not have a BA but they have experienced far more, both personally and through the media. They have seen wonderful ideals come to nothing, seen the duplicity and egotism of our leaders exposed and watched imposed empires break apart in violent conflicts. They are far better equipped to judge what the EU is and what it may become.

Older people are also more practical. Too many youngsters look for meaning and grasp at the latest social movement without considering the realities. In my yoof many threw away their career prospects because they were sucked into the hippy rejection of consumerism. Today some are violently opposing any belief that does not fit with their often absurd anarchist or socialist ideals. That's always easier when you are still a student and not actually picking up the bill via your tax payments. I wonder how many of these No Borders people will be so keen if it actually happens? When our economy is wrecked by a huge flow of people from places like Somalia or Sudan and nowhere is safe. Don't notice too many of us oldies going to fight with ISIL either.

When I acheive my ambition to become world dictator I'm going to raise the voting age to 30. That's when most people start to have some sense and a grasp of reality.

PS They won't be able to vote me out obviously but I would allow voting on a few things, e.g. micro-chipping of dogs or having performing arts in schools that I didn't give a shit about.

Just rephrase and inflate it minister

Immigration Minister James Brokenshire said today that it would be unwise to guarantee EU nationals living in the UK assurances they could stay without UK nationals abroad getting the same assurances. Sensible people will ask why that is unreasonable but the lefty idiots like Labour's Andy Burnham and Independent commenters think it is "threatening migrants".

What he should have said was something like: "Of course we want all the positive, hardworking migrants from Europe to remain here. They are an enormous benefit to our economy and contribute greatly to the wonderful and vibrant diversity of our society which would be far poorer without them. We will do everything in our power to negotiate a reciprocal arrangement that will provide legal guarantees on residence for them and for British citizens currently in other nations of the European Union. The other forward looking nations of the EU share our belief in moving towards a more equal global society, one in which we leave behind our narrow national differences and predudices and it is unthinkable that such an accord cannot be reached.

There you are minister! It says exactly the same thing but is full of PC crap and five times as long and lefties will be happy with it. And note the clever encoding. We can still kick out all the useless sorts because it specifically refers to positive, hardworking migrants. In righty terms that means what it says but a lefty will take "positive, hardworking migrants" to mean all of them!

Backwardness does not exist - unless it's in defence

The "anti-racist" agenda tells us that, despite the documented problems of poor and third world countries, including low performance, backward cultural beliefs and practices, poor education, conflict, high levels of violence, crime and corruption, and despite the real traumas they may have experienced, that all migrants from them are aspiring, law abiding and hard working people the moment they cross our borders. Any problems are down to exclusion by us nasty racist white people.

It's a different matter when they end up in court obviously. Don't you just feel sorry for this Somalian rapist whose defence lawyer (funded by us obviously) claims he did not realise that rape was not acceptable in the UK? Even though he had been convicted of it before! Or how about this poor Kurdish refugee whose assault charges are down to the trauma he suffered while illegally sneaking into our country in a lorry. His defence, the interpretor, dealing with his depression are all paid for by us obviously, not to mention the probably tens of thousands of pounds worth of goods that had to be ditched from the lorry.

The UN asylum convention, drawn up over 60 years ago when global travel was not easy, needs to be ditched or seriously reformed. We should not be expected to permanently take in people who are a threat or a major burden to our own citizens.

Why don't they set up special stores to sell food that has been in asylum seeker filled lorries? Surely those wonderful No Borders people would buy it? It's only us racists who don't want to eat food that these poor people have been pissing and shitting on.


A Man has recently been charged for threatening to shoot an MP on Twitter.

What this "threat" actually amounted to was a gun emoji and a message "Another MP that needs...". In other words it was not actually a threat at all, just the sort of joke comment that people make all the time. Some will rightly say it was in extremely bad taste so soon after the shooting of MP Jo Cox but our authorities should not be cracking down on bad taste, they should be acting in a cool headed manner to tackle genuine threats or those that appear genuine enough to frighten and cause distress.

Let's hope the police do not decide to investigate everyone who has ever suggested Tony Blair should be killed, the investigation could take even longer than the Chilcot enquiry.

More disdain of democracy and the working man by the left

The title says it all. "Brexit reminds us some things are too important to be decided by the people". It's one of several articles we have read recently (all from the political left) that tell us that the common man is too uneducated and stupid to make important decisions, we should leave them to our elected leaders and the appointed government experts. Sorry to bring reality and logic into it again but let's point out a few flaws in that:

The most obvious one is that our elected leaders and experts are not guaranteed to be benign and act in the public good. Hitler was elected and had the benefit of state advisors, so that made him a good leader of the German people did it? History is littered with self-serving, egotistical or impractically idealistic leaders, both elected and otherwise, who have inflicted disaster on their citizens.

While it is true that those who acheive leadership will generally be more intelligent and better educated than average, intelligence and education do not define political direction or views. You can find equally intelligent people on both sides of every political argument - look at Camoron and Johnson for example - both highly intelligent, Eton and Oxford educated men and yet they had (or claimed to have, which is what matters) completely different views on EU membership. You are telling us we should trust our leaders to do the right thing but which leader is it that we are supposed to trust?

If the common man is too ignorant or stupid to make a decision on EU membership, why is he capable of making a decision in a UK election when many of the same issues are involved? The various political parties have very different views on the major issues like the economy, welfare and social services, world trade, immigration, defence and... ah yes, EU membership! If we can't be trusted to weigh up those factors in a referendum, why can we trusted to do so in an election? One can only conclude that some lefties do not believe in democracy at all.

If the common man should trust in our leaders to do the right thing, then surely you should do the same lefties? If a Tory/UKIP coalition wins the next election you'll still be telling us we should trust our leaders will you? I suspect not. This protest against the referendum result is just hypocritical sour grapes and I have no doubt that, if stay had won, you'd be praising the common sense of the British voters.

Finally let's look at some recent history and one of those wise leaders, President Tito of Yugoslavia. He imposed a common government on disparate nations, largely dominated by the most powerful state of Serbia, although he was from the small nation of Croatia. There are distinct parallels with the EU today where the zealots like Junker from the small nation of Luxemburg are obsessed with trying to pressure us all into a common federation that is largely dominated by Germany. And what happened? Yugoslavia fell apart in Europe's deadliest conflict since WW2, having failed after nearly 50 years to acheive a conscencus between the constituent nations. The EU that Junker and others are trying to press us into is even less likely to succeed given the greater divergence of cultures and languages. Yugloslavia is just one example of the way that forced unions between people of different views and cultures rarely work. Not to say that they can't, but what is the best way to find out if people feel they have a sufficiently common ground to make a success of it? Ask them of course!

PS As usual, we are delighted to see that most of those who comment on Independent articles have far more sense than those who write them.

Why are the left so fucking illogical?

The Independent used to be one of our favourite newspapers but it's now hosting some screaming loony articles, appallingly one sided, illogical and often innacurate, in their Indy500 column.

Take this one. Ah, so the UK has dropped from fifth largest in the world to sixth overnight! The importance of that rather depends on how close the economies of France and the UK were to start with doesn't it? And it isn't even true as this main Independent article states.

Even if it was true, it's quite absurd to make judgements based on a few days. Everyone expected the pound and stock markets falls, it's the nature of the finance market, it's just a global casino. It's the long term that matters. The left is always extrapolating from nothing. We saw the same thing two years ago last January when they told us, based on a few days migration figures, that fears of mass immigration from Bulgaria and Romania were unfounded. Can't find any recent figures but there were 219,000 in the UK 8 months ago and rising.

And why is blanket hatred of some groups ok?

The other day my nice loony religious lady overheard some shop assistants moaning about the older vote affecting the EU referendum result and the one who served her seemed rather hostile.

Leftists have been blaming the brexit vote on the uneducated working class and the boomers for weeks and one of the worst articles is again in The Independent - How old people have screwed over the younger generation - in three charts. What would be the reaction if somebody did a similar article showing how the ethnic minority vote affected the result, with "black" instead of "old" and "whites" instead of "younger generation" in that title? Yet it's ok to use such terms when referring to older people.

Leaving aside the referendum, it seems too common to see articles blaming the older generation for things or resenting their relative wealth. Is this totally unrelated to the rise in crime against those over 50? I suspect not.

Every generation blames the one before

Ah yes, The Living Years by Mike and the Mechanics. One of my all time favourites.

Out of the frying pan...

I can well understand Scotland's desire to be free of the UK. It never works when people are forced into a union with others who have different cultures and different views on what the future should be. People need to look at history - the Roman Empire, the Austro Hungarian empire, the Ottoman empire, the USSR or Yugoslavia for example. As Scotland's case shows, even centuries don't necessarily solve the issues. But this is exactly why we voted to leave an EU that was seeking more and more to impose a uniform government on disparate nations!

The Scottish really need to think logically about what they are doing rather than just act out of their historic resentment at the English. They have already managed to get quite a bit in terms of self government. If we English can also get self determination and our taxes do not pay for Scottish public spending, most of us would be in favour of them having even more autonomy. They are an important part of the UK and their desires should not be ignored.

On the other hand, if they are a separate nation within the EU they will count for very little. They have a GDP not much different to that of Greece. They will have almost no say in what happens and one seriously has to wonder, if they want to be a self determining nation, how staying with the EU makes any sense.

Narrow Minded Youth

It is one of those myths that younger people are more open minded but the exact opposite is true. Today we are seeing a lot of hatred like this being whipped up against older people in the wake of the refererendum result.

It is quite true that younger people are more likely to embrace the latest fashionable ideals. In my hippy yoof, many young people threw away their career chances due to their rejection of consumerism. Today many embrace similarly unrealistic ideals, like open borders with little consideration of the consequences, or socialist societies, despite the failures of every truly socialist/communist society there has ever been.

It is also quite true that older people are more 'set in their ways'. They prefer it when things do not change too quickly but that is down to experience, they have seen it all before and tend to have better knowledge of the realities of history. The numerous failures of UK governments to live up to their election promises, the many military failures by the West, the collapse of the USSR, the lack of bog paper in Venezuela, they have seen so many great ideas come to nothing or have adverse consequences.

Being open minded is not about zealously embracing the latest idea, it is about being able to consider the pros and cons of an idea and too many young brains seem poorly wired for that, their emotional need for meaning and purpose in their lives overrides their ability to think logically. You can see this closed mindedness everywhere today. The NUS "No Platform" policy has been used to bar many who do not follow their liberal left agenda. It is impossible for any group to publicly protest about mass immigration without being violently attacked by far greater numbers of "anti-facists" and the pictures indicate these are mostly young people. Ah yes, and those raping, beheading Islamists joining ISIS, not too many oldies there either.

Maybe these hate-filled young fanatics who object to leaving the EU should do a Google of "violent protests Greece". Lots of young people violently protesting aganst austerity imposed by the EU!



No need to say why.

PS I see Hollande is saying "The EU must be understood and controlled by its citizens. I will do everything to secure profound change rather than decline"

It's a pity you and the other zealots didn't do that before instead of sending Camoron away with next to nothing you fuckwit. A seriously reformed EU, with more democracy, that went with the realities of human nature and evolved more slowly, that was prepared to learn from history, that put the real concerns of ordinary citizens above the unrealistic ideals of unelected, overpaid, privileged bastards is something that I, and many others, would have voted for.

Why do the left so hate democracy?

Back in the 60s it was possible to have some respect for leftists. As real socialists should, they put the interests of working class people first. The Labour party back then was totally against the Common Market, against globalisation and domination by large companies.

Now all you see from many on the left is contempt for ordinary people, surveys that show Brexiters are less educated, dismissal of any idea that they deserve a say in their own future. Everything should be in the hands of wealthy educated people who know best. Above all, they hate referenda. A total fuckwit on Contractor UK was citing the fact that a referendum was used to give Hitler absolute power as an argument against referenda in general. It's the sort of "argument" that is typical of lefties, maybe they should denounce reducing inflation on the grounds that Hitler did that too.

There's a pretty typical item in today's news. Among the worst things Camoron ever did was "pandering to the right wing of his party by announcing a referendum". Terrible! If you let ordinary people make a choice about their own future you must be a neo Nazi.

Silly Scottish cow

Nicola Sturgeon is banging on about an independent Scotland again. Actually, she is not an idiot and will probably want to make some firm arrangements regarding Scotland's currency first.

She can no longer join the European Union without also joining the Eurozone. Given the leftist nature of the Scottish, and the inevitably struggling economy that will result, we are probably looking at another Greece if they join the Eurozone, their GDP is very similar. Like Greece, Scotland will be totally dominated by the Germans and forced into stringent controls on public spending that they will not be too happy with.

The only alternative is total independence, difficult for a small country. Good luck to them but I hope to hell they are not allowed to remain in any sort of currency union with England, we have been propping them up with the Barnett Formula for far too long. Independence should mean exactly what it says!

PS Hang on! In just a few years' time the British pound will have the Prince of Daftness's face on it. Take it! Take it! Nicola, we don't want it any more! I'd rather trade in old socks than have to look at that bastard's face every time I buy something.

This Silly Seacole Stuff

It's something that never seems to go away, arguments about the merits or otherwise of Mary Seacole.

Who cares either way? We really do need some icons to persuade the lowest performing minorities in the UK that they can succeed if they put in the effort but is a black youth in a gangland area going to be convinced of that by the case of a lady who was 3/4 white, died nearly 140 years ago and suffered the real discrimination that was acceptable at the time? And why would she mean anything at all to a Bangadeshi kid?

Surely it would make far more sense to make more of successful minority people in today's Britain?

The Next President

The US has a reputation for being socially conservative but, if Clinton gets in, they will have had a black and a female president in quick succession. They have already had a disabled president in Roosevelt. Well done US! You are leading the way in breaking down the barriers against the poor oppressed minorities!

Let's see, disabled president, black president, female president, that only leaves one major discriminated against minority to go, the LGBT community. Say hello to 2020's new president.

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As we have commented before too many have no ability to appreciate context, seizing on some single word or phrase and ignoring all the words that actually define the point. This seems to be particularly a lefty/liberal problem. Not to say all of that bent are illogical loonies, in general we find the leftist Guardian presents its case rather well, even if we don't agree with it. Their "What has the EU ever done for my..." series of articles in favour of Bremain may be rather selective, we are all selective when arguing our own case, but at least they appear properly researched.

On the other hand, the once sensible Independent now runs articles from the most irrational people you can imagine. How's this for a heading? The 3 words Donald Trump said that made the Orlando shooting even worse. Gosh! What has nasty Trump said now? Shoot All Muslims? Er, no:

Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!

We need to be tough, vigilant and smart to prevent further terrorist attacks! What an appalling racist suggestion!


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